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06-03-2008, 01:54 PM
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Incredible India
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
It's funny because the spirit of Jezebel can be so subtle that you don't even realize that is what it is until that person has caused so much grief and pain.
What's even stranger the people who have caused Keith and I the most trouble have the "look".
The last woman who tried to control the church, because that is the ultimate goal is to control the ministry for their own gain and power. She was soft spoken, easy going and seemed so so sweet. But it was just a front to use us for her own advantage.
A Jezebel can literally be a parasite-sorry to be so blunt. But when they are done with their host, they go find someone else to feed on. All to get their way, have their influence until you figure them out.
This woman wanted so bad to have a traveling music ministry she almost did anything to get it, call our ministry friends and ask to sing at their churches, call evangelist to offer to travel with them and at our own church had to be front and center because music was her "passion". All the while we received so many complaints about her talent it became unbearable.
But the spirit of Jezebel has nothing to do with the outside, that can even fool you--it can come in any package. But untimate goal is controll.
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06-03-2008, 04:39 PM
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
It's funny because the spirit of Jezebel can be so subtle that you don't even realize that is what it is until that person has caused so much grief and pain.
What's even stranger the people who have caused Keith and I the most trouble have the "look".
The last woman who tried to control the church, because that is the ultimate goal is to control the ministry for their own gain and power. She was soft spoken, easy going and seemed so so sweet. But it was just a front to use us for her own advantage.
A Jezebel can literally be a parasite-sorry to be so blunt. But when they are done with their host, they go find someone else to feed on. All to get their way, have their influence until you figure them out.
This woman wanted so bad to have a traveling music ministry she almost did anything to get it, call our ministry friends and ask to sing at their churches, call evangelist to offer to travel with them and at our own church had to be front and center because music was her "passion". All the while we received so many complaints about her talent it became unbearable.
But the spirit of Jezebel has nothing to do with the outside, that can even fool you--it can come in any package. But untimate goal is controll.
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The Jezebel spirit you have described is definitely not limited to females.
Its the same spirit that gets ahold of a man and causes him to "lord over" the flock rather than shepherding the flock.
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06-03-2008, 02:45 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
The Jezebel spirit is not often recognized outwardly....
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06-03-2008, 02:52 PM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
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The Jezebel spirit is not often recognized outwardly....
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This is the absolute truth, my friend.
Without giving too much away, the woman who gave me the most trouble when I was pastoring had actually written some books on "holiness".
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06-03-2008, 03:15 PM
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Incredible India
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
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The Jezebel spirit is not often recognized outwardly....
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This is what I was trying to say, but my little ole post was passed over- 
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06-03-2008, 02:58 PM
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My Family!
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
That statement said - - she sees people that hold standards and then people that don't hold them disappointing God.
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06-03-2008, 02:59 PM
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Not riding the train
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
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That statement said - - she sees people that hold standards and then people that don't hold them disappointing God.
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Yes. I don't mean each group as a whole, but individuals.
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06-03-2008, 03:01 PM
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My Family!
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
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Yes.
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Could that be because it has NOTHING to do with standards, but all about holiness?
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06-03-2008, 03:02 PM
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Not riding the train
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
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Could that be because it has NOTHING to do with standards, but all about holiness?
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Of course. Therefore, the argument of being for or against then becomes and has become ridiculous.
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06-03-2008, 03:04 PM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?
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Of course. Therefore, the argument of being for or against then becomes and has become ridiculous.
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Well, we agree on this!
But, to many, the argument "for or against standards" is anything but ridiculous.
The standards are the issue, not the holiness of the heart, which is the TRUE issue.
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