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Brad Murphy · #1 07-12-2008, 02:52 PM

I'm not so sure that the liberals feel welcome either... as soon as I start feeling comfortable posting, we get posts like this and we keep hearing how off-balance the forum is with too many liberals so when I DO post, I now keep it reigned in for the most part. I believe that part of the problem is ultra-cons just aren't used to being questioned or disrespected in any way (especially prior to the advent of internet discussion forums). They are used to everything they say being taken as gospel, so this (a level playing field) is new to them.

stmatthew · #2 07-12-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy

I'm not so sure that the liberals feel welcome either... as soon as I start feeling comfortable posting, we get posts like this and we keep hearing how off-balance the forum is with too many liberals so when I DO post, I now keep it reigned in for the most part. I believe that part of the problem is ultra-cons just aren't used to being questioned or disrespected in any way (especially prior to the advent of internet discussion forums). They are used to everything they say being taken as gospel, so this (a level playing field) is new to them.

Brad, most of the few conservatives that post here have been on forums for years now. It ain't new to them.

StMark · #3 07-12-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy

I'm not so sure that the liberals feel welcome either... as soon as I start feeling comfortable posting, we get posts like this and we keep hearing how off-balance the forum is with too many liberals so when I DO post, I now keep it reigned in for the most part. I believe that part of the problem is ultra-cons just aren't used to being questioned or disrespected in any way (especially prior to the advent of internet discussion forums). They are used to everything they say being taken as gospel, so this (a level playing field) is new to them.

Brad, you go way back too. Back on FCF you posted fearless
as a liberal yet we didn't hear talk of of this at all.

Newman and others were debating against standards yet
we didn't hear of all this talk of libs and cons going their own
way

what do you think the difference is now ??

Brad Murphy · #4 07-12-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark

Brad, you go way back too. Back on FCF you posted fearless
as a liberal yet we didn't hear talk of of this at all.

Newman and others were debating against standards yet
we didn't hear of all this talk of libs and cons going their own
way

what do you think the difference is now ??

That is a good point. I think everyone is becoming convinced that neither side is going to change the other side's mind. We started thinking that "once they just see our point, they will realize that we are right"... but it never happened. At least I was naive enough to think that it would happen someday. lol.

For the record, I don't go all the way back to USENET or IRC in religious discussions... I had actually looked for some Pentecostals to "confront" several years before I found FCF but could not find them (didn't think to look on USENET or IRC... I was quite surprised when I discovered that there were Pentecostals that were that tech savvy). Most Pentecostals that I knew grewing up were more blue-collar types (not that there is anything wrong with that... and I do not mean that in a derogatory manner.) In fact, I was the only "Pentecostal" person that I knew that knew ANYTHING about computers for years... If these forums have shown me anything, it is that there are some ultra-cons with lots of secular education and skills, and that is something I would never have expected prior to coming to FCF, NFCF, AFF, etc.)

Cindy · #5 07-12-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy

I'm not so sure that the liberals feel welcome either... as soon as I start feeling comfortable posting, we get posts like this and we keep hearing how off-balance the forum is with too many liberals so when I DO post, I now keep it reigned in for the most part. I believe that part of the problem is ultra-cons just aren't used to being questioned or disrespected in any way (especially prior to the advent of internet discussion forums). They are used to everything they say being taken as gospel, so this (a level playing field) is new to them.

I believe part of the problem is liberals aren't used to being questioned or disrespected in any way. They are used to everything they saying being taken as gospel, so this (a level playing field) is new to them. Especially because of the advent of internet discussion forums.

Brad Murphy · #6 07-12-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx

I believe part of the problem is liberals aren't used to being questioned or disrespected in any way. They are used to everything they saying being taken as gospel, so this (a level playing field) is new to them. Especially because of the advent of internet discussion forums.

Not sure how that one can be turned around, since there were "conservatives" before there were "liberals"... but okay.

pelathais · #7 07-12-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy

Not sure how that one can be turned around, since there were "conservatives" before there were "liberals"... but okay.

That's an interesting angle - but I'd have to disagree.

Go through the old Oneness Pentecostal writings and check out what they belived. Look at the writings of AD Urshan, John Deering and others. Look through some old photographs.

You will see that those who are being called "Liberals" here are the real descendants of the founders of the OP movement. The "cons" didn't really get their start until around WW2.

Brad Murphy · #8 07-12-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

That's an interesting angle - but I'd have to disagree.

Go through the old Oneness Pentecostal writings and check out what they belived. Look at the writings of AD Urshan, John Deering and others. Look through some old photographs.

You will see that those who are being called "Liberals" here are the real descendants of the founders of the OP movement. The "cons" didn't really get their start until around WW2.

Sorry, I should have explained myself better. From my perspective, I grew up in an ultra-con culture, in a world where certain things were just not questioned... ever... if they were questioned, the closest you ever got to an answer was "have you prayed about it". So to say that the "liberals" are not used to being questioned by the ultra-cons, just doesn't make any sense from my personal perspective.

Cindy · #9 07-12-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy

Not sure how that one can be turned around, since there were "conservatives" before there were "liberals"... but okay.

Dude, parallel universe.

Hoovie · #10 07-12-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx

I believe part of the problem is liberals aren't used to being questioned or disrespected in any way. They are used to everything they saying being taken as gospel, so this (a level playing field) is new to them. Especially because of the advent of internet discussion forums.

Amen! You said a mouthful there!