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06-14-2007, 01:35 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Margies3
Why would you expect more from those in ministry? We're all on this journey together, brother.
Do you think that God works in a more mighty way in the life of a minister than He does in the life of a saint?
I know that you are saying that you shouldn't put the pastor up on a pedestal. But by expecting more of him than you would of yourself or some other saint, you really are.
No wonder saints end up hurt. These men are just as human as anyone else. Trying just as hard. But just as fallible. That's unfair pressure to put on them - expecting more of them than of other saints.
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Sister, can you follow someone that isn't ahead of you?
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06-14-2007, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Margies3
Why would you expect more from those in ministry? We're all on this journey together, brother.
Do you think that God works in a more mighty way in the life of a minister than He does in the life of a saint?
I know that you are saying that you shouldn't put the pastor up on a pedestal. But by expecting more of him than you would of yourself or some other saint, you really are.
No wonder saints end up hurt. These men are just as human as anyone else. Trying just as hard. But just as fallible. That's unfair pressure to put on them - expecting more of them than of other saints.
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I totally disagree with the spirit of this post. It is an effort to reduce the authority of the pulpit to rubble. Ministry does have higher expectations.
SOMEONE has to lead.
This cannot happen if we are all equal in an authority sense.
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06-14-2007, 01:37 PM
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8. Some folks will never agree with you no matter how right or agreeable you may be.
9. Some folks will hate you just for being there.
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06-14-2007, 01:37 PM
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Saved & Shaved
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Originally Posted by revrandy
Why do you want to know?
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NEVERMIND! ! ! ! ! !
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06-14-2007, 01:38 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Originally Posted by Rico
I'm being serious, Brother. I had this very thing happen to me. In my case I believe it was God correcting my viewpoint on ministry. I can't go into any of the details of what God started showing about this pastor, but I know that I got way too close to him and I had put him way too high on that pedastal. So high, in fact, that he got between me and God. So, I guess the point I am making is threefold.
1) It's important for ministry to be ahead of laity. (spiritually speaking)
2) It's important to not put ministry too awfully high up on a pedastal.
3) It's important for some distance to be between those in ministry and laity.
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Rico...
I do agree with you here...
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06-14-2007, 01:38 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
NEVERMIND! ! ! ! ! !
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Bro..You are sensitive...
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06-14-2007, 01:39 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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10. Some folks are happy when their unhappy all the time...
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06-14-2007, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by revrandy
10. Some folks are happy when their unhappy all the time...
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 That is true, and some folks love being sick. These things become an identity they can cling to.
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06-14-2007, 01:41 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Lemme put it to you this way. Brother "A" is a regular pew warming saint, faithful in his giving, church attendance, etc. It comes to light that Brother "A" has been stealing money from his job or wherever. You forgive Brother "A" and he goes on warming a pew.
Brother "B" is your pastor. It comes to light that Brother "B" has been stealing money from his job, church, or wherever. Are you justified in being more upset with Brother "B" because he was your pastor than Brother "A"?
I say yes, because Brother "B" has responsibilities that Brother "A" does not have. People are counting on Brother "B" to be a quality example of what it means to follow after Christ because God has placed him as a spiritual leader in their lives. To whom much is given much is required.
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06-14-2007, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico
Lemme put it to you this way. Brother "A" is a regular pew warming saint, faithful in his giving, church attendance, etc. It comes to light that Brother "A" has been stealing money from his job or wherever. You forgive Brother "A" and he goes on warming a pew.
Brother "B" is your pastor. It comes to light that Brother "B" has been stealing money from his job, church, or wherever? Are you justified in being more upset with Brother "B" because he was your pastor than Brother "A"?
I say yes, because Brother "B" has responsibilities that Brother "A" does not have. People are counting on Brother "B" to be a quality example of what it means to follow after Christ because God has placed him as a spiritual leader in their lives. To whom much is given much is required.
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awww man! Why did it need to be Brother B? He always gets the bad rap!
But I do agree with you.
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