Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

What about combing your hair? Tucking in your shirt? Wearing deodorant? Ironing your clothes? All of those things are done to make yourself more presentable to others. The fact is there is nothing in Scripture that hints at forbidding Jewelry when taken in context, so when preachers forbid it they are going beyond Scripture and adding to what God requires.

What is the "Purpose" of Jewelry?

really?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

Ron I understand where you are going with this, but there has to be a line drawn with good reason. Just to say it is about pride, would be to tell men they can no longer wear ties, as that is an unnecessary ornament, if you will.

Can that cause men that have jobs requiring suits and ties a problem? Yes it can.

It makes sense to me that some people don't want to wear jewelry as they feel for them it is a sin. And they have scripture they use to support their belief.

It also makes sense to me that some people do want to wear jewelry as they feel for them is is not a sin. And they have scripture they use to support their belief.

The more I see and study these things out the more I see you really need to seek out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Some areas I see that can be a concern about buying jewelry is that most of the good stuff is really expense. This is an issue with my husband. Before I was back in church he bought me jewelry for Christmas. Now he says he never knows what to buy me.

And we can always say that could have been given to the missionaries, but honestly we could say that about everything. Those fries you had with that hamburger could have gone to the missionaries.

My point being folks are going to have to develop their own relationship with God. The things of this world can draw you away from that relationship.

Too much time spent on the internet. Too much time spent playing golf, or fishing, or shopping. These are things of this world. Not everything "thing" is an object of value; such as homes, jewelry etc.

We need our foundation to be what pleases Jesus! Not what pleases man. JMO

Esther,
Good post. I think the premise of the passage in Exodus was certainly pride.

Jewelry is not a necessity in my life and therefore, for me, it was and would be, always, a materialistic thing.

When I first got in church I had a fur coat. As I began to get closer to God I felt uncomfortable wearing it to church.

I heard a preacher say, "If you can't worship God wearing what you have on, take it off. If you have too much money in your wallet and it hinders your worship, lighten the load."

I agree with him! Some things can stand in our way.

I remember a time when I worked in sales, I could feel how materalistic I was becoming. I worked in a gorgeous building on Townlake in Austin. One morning as I was going to work I stopped by the lake, took out my perfume bottle, walked to a rock, broke it and poured the perfume out. I said, "God, I want to show you that I don't love money more than I love you."

Less than a month later, we had a huge church split, my husband lost his job, I got sick from being pregnant, had to quit, we lost our truck, our home, etc.

My husband said, "I AM NEVER BUYING YOU ANOTHER BOTTLE OF PERFUME - AGAIN!"

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Esther,
Good post. I think the premise of the passage in Exodus was certainly pride.

Jewelry is not a necessity in my life and therefore, for me, it was and would be, always, a materialistic thing.

When I first got in church I had a fur coat. As I began to get closer to God I felt uncomfortable wearing it to church.

I heard a preacher say, "If you can't worship God wearing with what you have on, take it off. If you have too much money in your wallet and it hinders your worship, lighten the load."

I agree with him! Some things can stand in our way.

I remember a time when I worked in sales, I could feel how materalistic I was becoming. I worked in a gorgeous building on Townlake in Austin. One morning as I was going to work I stopped by the lake, took out my perfume bottle, walked to a rock, broke it and poured the perfume out. I said, "God I want to show you that I don't love money more than I love you."

Less than a month later, we had a huge church split, my husband lost his job, I got sick from being pregnant, had to quit, we lost our truck, our home, etc.

My husband said, "I AM NEVER BUYING YOU ANOTHER BOTTLE OF PERFUME - AGAIN!"

That's because you live in Texas silly!
Sheesh! Blondes!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Ron

That's because you live in Texas silly!
Sheesh! Blondes!

LOL - I was going to say that (not the blonde part), but didn't want to hinder the flow of the thread!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ron

That's because you live in Texas silly!
Sheesh! Blondes!

It still gets cold in winter.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Ron

Yeah & people don't clue in that every standard whether we agree with them or not are rooted in Biblical principle.

Ornaments? Why does one need them?
Because a woman says "I want to look "attractive!" "I want to be "noticed!"

Men are just as prone to this as well.

1Jo 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jo 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever.

You guys are missing my point, entirely.

I asked what "ornaments" were defined as in scripture, and the word "jewelry" never even came up.

My point is this - if a person says "I don't think it's wrong to wear a watch and a wedding ring, but anything else is ornamental" that's fine! It's a personal preference, and I respect that.

However, to take a scripture that obviously encompasses MUCH more than jewelry, as OP posted, and try to make it a Biblical edict against jewelry ALONE, is absolutely incorrect, in my opinion.

Oh, not just jewelry, but anything other than a watch and a wedding ring.

And, the watch can be gold and diamond, but it's functional.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

You guys are missing my point, entirely.

I asked what "ornaments" were defined as in scripture, and the word "jewelry" never even came up.

My point is this - if a person says "I don't think it's wrong to wear a watch and a wedding ring, but anything else is ornamental" that's fine! It's a personal preference, and I respect that.

However, to take a scripture that obviously encompasses MUCH more than jewelry, as OP posted, and try to make it a Biblical edict against jewelry ALONE, is absolutely incorrect, in my opinion.

Oh, not just jewelry, but anything other than a watch and a wedding ring.

And, the watch can be gold and diamond, but it's functional.

And you mine.

Jewelry has no other purpose than to attract attention to ones self otherwise what use is it to wear?

If one is trying to wear something to attract attention to ones self then it is time to ask, "Why?"

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Ron

And you mine.

Jewelry has no other purpose than to attract attention to ones self otherwise what use is it to wear?

If one is trying to wear something to attract attention to ones self then it is time to ask, "Why?"

Oh, for goodness sake. You could say the same thing about a pretty dress. My husband takes me shopping several times a year, and let's me pick out pretty much whatever I want. I not only pick out what I think looks the BEST on me, but I wear it because my husband bought it for me.

Now, on principle, am I doing that to "attract attention to [my]self?"

Or am I just looking pretty and taking advantage of my husband's generous nature?

Sometimes folks act like its a sin to look nice. Do you think that if I walk through the grocery store on Sunday after church in a nice suit and heels that I don't attract any attention? If for no other reason than I'm dressed up!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Oh, for goodness sake. You could say the same thing about a pretty dress. My husband takes me shopping several times a year, and let's me pick out pretty much whatever I want. I not only pick out what I think looks the BEST on me, but I wear it because my husband bought it for me.

Now, on principle, am I doing that to "attract attention to [my]self?"

Or am I just looking pretty and taking advantage of my husband's generous nature?

Sometimes folks act like its a sin to look nice. Do you think that if I walk through the grocery store on Sunday after church in a nice suit and heels that I don't attract any attention? If for no other reason than I'm dressed up!

That is plain silly & so far out of reach & you should know it.
Clothing ain't optional.

Necklaces, Earrings, Baubles, & Rings are just that---optional & totally unnecessary.

[bkstokes]

Mark

Post a pic of your Choir. Preferribly one of you preaching uh I mean teaching uh I mean instructing them in music.