Is Homosexuality demon possesion or learned behavi - Page 12

mizpeh · #**111** 07-13-2008, 07:05 PM

I worked with a guy years ago who was straight and in his early 20's. He became a homosexual and his voice and mannerisms changed over time. He became more effeminate. It took me back as I watched the change.

If he was born that way why the sudden change?

Rico · #**112** 07-13-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

I worked with a guy years ago who was straight and in his early 20's. He became a homosexual and his voice and mannerisms changed over time. He became more effeminate. It took me back as I watched the change.

If he was born that way why the sudden change?

My guess is for this fella it was a choice he made. How about those who are naturally effeminate?

Jermyn Davidson · #**113** 07-13-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

They haven't found the gene, but there is evidence that the brains of homosexual men are more like the brains of heterosexual women. So, it may turn out to be a brain development issue.

yeah but that study was done on dead brains. it is very likely that the differences in a gay brain are there as a result of the actions of that gay man-- but they are still not 100% sure on it.

Also, many gay guys have other vices, like drugs, that also alter the brain. Some of the subjects in the study cited above, it was not clear that they had never done drugs.

Generally, gay guys have more sex, more often, with more people. It is scientifically proven that a persons sexual habits can bring pronounced changes to the brain.

Oh and then there are the HIV drugs that people take and the sum affects of those on any person have not been completely the same, every time....

So many unknowns.

Jermyn Davidson · #**114** 07-13-2008, 07:33 PM

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Seems unfair, then. Bible-following straights cannot commit fornication, but at least they have some hope of marrying and enjoying sex with God's blessing. Not so, gays. They are forced to remain virgins their entire lives, or capitulate to marriage to the opposite sex, someone to whom they have little or no attraction. Intimacy would be, presumably, as unnatural -- perhaps repugnant -- to them as gay sex would be to you or me. Such a marriage is unlikely to be very healthy.

There should be a special reward in Heaven for gays that remain pure all their lives.

Poor gays. satan has taken the MINDS of gay men and women and has poisoned them, in an effort to rob them of a great gift and to ultimately destroy them.

Most gay guys I have spoken with would rather "be straight" but they FEEL like that is an impossibility.

THE DEVIL IS A LIAR!

The Bible says, "Resist the devil and he will flee from you."

Rico · #**115** 07-13-2008, 07:41 PM

1399, lemme ask you a question. Do you choose to be attracted to the women you are attracted to? I know you choose whether to act on that attraction, but do you choose to be attracted to anyone? My guess is you don't. This is where the "it's a choice" argument falls flat. Gays don't choose to be attracted to men anymore than you choose to be attracted to women. Just like your attraction to women is natural for you, their attraction to the same sex occurs naturally for them.

Jermyn Davidson · #**116** 07-13-2008, 07:44 PM

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Now Timmy, you know it is all because of that choice that they made... you know the day they just decided to be attracted to the same sex? I am so thankful that I was paying attention in class the day we had to choose our orientation... if you accidentally checked B instead of A, you would be gay! Whew!

There is a choice that is made.

Do you act on every thought or impulse that you have?

Aren't there thoughts and impulses that you have has and when you started to follow them, for some reason you backed down, turned away?

Just because one has the thoughts does not mean you have to dwell on those thoughts, rehearse those thoughts or even act on those thoughts.

There is a choice that is not made, by MANY gay Americans, by many sinners around the world: that is the choice to give God a chance to do the miraculous in their life.

Can God deliver the gay man? Can God take a gay man and make him into a straight Pastor? Can God take a gay man's wounded and painful past and give him an incredible inheritance?

Can God make a gay man straight enough to marry one of our female relatives?

YES GOD CAN!

So if they choose to be lost, it's their choice. I do wish more would come to repentance. I really, really do. It's sad to go through hell all one's life on earth and then die and go to hell for an eternity.

Adino · #**117** 07-13-2008, 07:57 PM

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Brother, let me put it this way. I voted for Bush both times around. I feel that his true colors have shone through in his second term. I feel as if we were lied to about Iraq, and it's time for our troops to come home. I also have come to believe that President Bush has done more to take away American's freedoms than any other President in our history. The last thing I want is another four, possibly eight, years with another Republican in office. They've done nothing to stem the tide of homosexual rights or any of the other moral issues Christians typically vote for Republicans because of. While I know McCain isn't exactly like Bush, his positions on issues like the war are too much like Bush's for me to support him. I also believe that McCain is simply too old to handle the kind of stress the Presidency puts on a man. His time for having won the office is long past, and I can not believe he's the best the Republicans could come up with this go around.

Do you feel the accomplishments listed on the following issues are bad?

1. Winning the War on Terror - ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ac...ent/chap1.html )

2. Promoting Peace and Democracy - and Acts of Mercy - ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ac...ent/chap3.html )

3. Economic Growth and Job Creation - ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ac...ent/chap5.html )

I'd wager that if these accomplishments would have taken place under a Democrat presidency the president would have been lauded as one of the greatest men to ever have held the position.

I agree with you that Bush should have been more conservative on some of his social issues, but let's not throw out the Bush baby with the bath water. If another eight years of accomplishments like the aforementioned is all we have to look forward to by not voting, as you said, "Probama" then I'd say we'll, generally, be heading in the right direction. (pun absolutely intended )

God bless, Bro.

Timmy · #**118** 07-13-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1399

There is a choice that is made.

Do you act on every thought or impulse that you have?

Aren't there thoughts and impulses that you have has and when you started to follow them, for some reason you backed down, turned away?

Just because one has the thoughts does not mean you have to dwell on those thoughts, rehearse those thoughts or even act on those thoughts.

There is a choice that is not made, by MANY gay Americans, by many sinners around the world: that is the choice to give God a chance to do the miraculous in their life.

Can God deliver the gay man? Can God take a gay man and make him into a straight Pastor? Can God take a gay man's wounded and painful past and give him an incredible inheritance?

Can God make a gay man straight enough to marry one of our female relatives?

YES GOD CAN!

So if they choose to be lost, it's their choice. I do wish more would come to repentance. I really, really do. It's sad to go through hell all one's life on earth and then die and go to hell for an eternity.

Say that to a gay man, face to face, who has begged God to deliver him, to take away the desire for men and make him "normal". Say that to the man who never had any attraction to women since birth. The man who has been told that his desires are evil. The man full of despair, who has thought of killing himself every day of his life (at least since he found out how evil he was). He feels abnormal, dirty, vile. Worthless.

Tell him it's his own choice to feel these evil desires.

After he's dead, tell his family he's in hell now, in eternal torment, because God didn't choose him for "deliverance" or "healing".

mizpeh · #**119** 07-13-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Say that to a gay man, face to face, who has begged God to deliver him, to take away the desire for men and make him "normal". Say that to the man who never had any attraction to women since birth. The man who has been told that his desires are evil. The man full of despair, who has thought of killing himself every day of his life (at least since he found out how evil he was). He feels abnormal, dirty, vile. Worthless.

Tell him it's his own choice to feel these evil desires.

After he's dead, tell his family he's in hell now, in eternal torment, because God didn't choose him for "deliverance" or "healing".

"never had any attraction to women since birth"? LOL, When do you believe sexual attractions begin?