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Old 06-21-2010, 09:27 PM
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born into the ag, left at age 50.
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Assembly of God.
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Assembly of God.
Have you read this, Timmy?

What are your thoughts about his experience?
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Have you read this, Timmy?

What are your thoughts about his experience?
Read what? Did you forget a link, or something?
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Read what? Did you forget a link, or something?
Whoops!

http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blo...ieving-in-god/
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Thanks. I'll have a look.

When you quoted my post mentioning the AofG, my hunch was that you were going to ask about Don't Call Me Brother, by Austin Miles, which I have read. So, I was going to respond something like this:

"Yes, I read it a few years ago. It's the autobiographical story of an Assembly of God preacher who finds himself in the inner circle - rubbing elbows with the big wigs, including Jim Bakker and the General Superintendent of the AG at the time (Zimmerman). He is appalled by the corruption at all levels, and strong-arm tactics, blackmail, debauchery, etc. etc.

"The book is one side of the story, and it seems that the author takes great care not to admit much (if any) fault in the things that befall him. It's possible that his memory is somewhat selective! I don't know how many detailed accounts are true (some of them seem far-fetched, and a number of them have been disputed, not surprisingly), but overall, in the big picture, it rings true.

"Last I knew, Austin Miles had returned to Christianity and the ministry, but stands by the stories in his book."

But you didn't, so I won't.
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Amazing story! Very interesting. I have not heard of or experienced anything like that, before.

Seems odd, though, that he would think of this, when it was over (that reminds me, I need to get back into my exercise program!), as a test or a lesson of some kind from God. Even during his time as an "atheist", he prayed and pleaded with God. And if the lesson he had to learn was that he couldn't have faith unless God gave it to him, what does that say about people who don't have faith? To me, it says either God chooses not to bestow faith upon them (certain ones, as He sees fit -- His ways are not our ways, etc.), or they, for whatever reason, choose to say "No, thanks". There doesn't seem to be any allowance for us working out for ourselves what to believe. Weird.

Now, I'm heading over to the treadmill. I'll let you know if the extra blood flow triggers a return to faith.
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Amazing story! Very interesting. I have not heard of or experienced anything like that, before.

Seems odd, though, that he would think of this, when it was over (that reminds me, I need to get back into my exercise program!), as a test or a lesson of some kind from God. Even during his time as an "atheist", he prayed and pleaded with God. And if the lesson he had to learn was that he couldn't have faith unless God gave it to him, what does that say about people who don't have faith? To me, it says either God chooses not to bestow faith upon them (certain ones, as He sees fit -- His ways are not our ways, etc.), or they, for whatever reason, choose to say "No, thanks". There doesn't seem to be any allowance for us working out for ourselves what to believe. Weird.

Now, I'm heading over to the treadmill. I'll let you know if the extra blood flow triggers a return to faith.
He's a Calvinist...so he fit the explanation of his loss of faith into his belief structure.

Personally, I think it was a lying spirit of some sort...a literal demonic spirit. After I had become a Christian and had experiences with God that convinced me that He was real and therefore the Bible was true, I constantly had to battle thoughts of unbelief. The same thoughts that had held me in blindness and hostage to atheism for years. I had to keep reminding myself of the things that God had done in showing himself to be real to me.

It may have been a test allowed by God. Afterall, everyone's faith is tested. But I think we've talked about this before in another thread.
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. . .After I had become a Christian and had experiences with God that convinced me that He was real and therefore the Bible was true, . . .
How does it follow that the Bible is true, if God is real? What's to stop a Muslim from saying that God is real, therefore the Quran is true?
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How does it follow that the Bible is true, if God is real? What's to stop a Muslim from saying that God is real, therefore the Quran is true?
We have a President who has quoted from "the Holy Quran" on occasion.
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