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Old 09-15-2010, 06:23 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem

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No. Perspective will change depending upon environment, upbringing, and life experiences. This does not make it real or true except for a single person. There is reality and then there is perspective.

No. But that doesn't mean that we are truly free. Think of every tax, every license, every tidbit of legislation -- we are not free. We are given the perception of freedom while actually being bound.

No. That's like evil goodness or stupid intelligence. Freedom is freedom. If there is any degree of surrender it is my choice to do so.

Maybe -- it makes a lot of sense. Especially the intellectual stance of it - opposed to the chaotic, teen-age angst version that everyone seems to embrace.
What is "true freedom?"
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:24 PM
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Uh... no.

It's a form of implied consent when you participate in a society, elect government that passes laws, and they follow-through with those laws. You've given them permission. You are represented.

If you want to be an anarchist about it, say so, just don't call it "stealing."
You're buying into the social contract idea... I don't.

I'll call it what it is.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:24 PM
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None of that works -- except MAYBE the physical voice, printing, and publishing. And that only works on a small level. Those things reach people, one at a time and most often few and far between - unless one is already saying what is appeasing to people already.
I think millions of Americans would disagree with you who vote every year.

How did I get suckered on the looney, right-wing whacko thread?
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:24 PM
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aka You're an anarchist.
Okay...
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:25 PM
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What is "true freedom?"
Exactly what it says.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:25 PM
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You're buying into the social contract idea... I don't.

I'll call it what it is.
I guess your perception is your reality.

It's quite ignorant though. Are you a believer? Take heed to Romans 13. Be unhappy, feel like you live in tyranny, and have a good life.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:25 PM
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Exactly what it says.
What is it? YOu think of it something different than I it seems? Define it. What does it look like?
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:27 PM
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I think millions of Americans would disagree with you who vote every year.

How did I get suckered on the looney, right-wing whacko thread?
Ahh... there's what I've been waiting for. The labels and name calling used when dismissing the alternative idea. I don't do that so as to actually engage with people.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:29 PM
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I guess your perception is your reality.

It's quite ignorant though. Are you a believer? Take heed to Romans 13. Be unhappy, feel like you live in tyranny, and have a good life.
**yawn**

There it is again.. whoo hoo... wacko in one post, ignorant in another...

my, you must be so proud of yourself telling the wacko ignorant right-wingers the TRUTH-AH...
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:30 PM
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Okay...
And anarchy is a philosophical fallacy. If you were an anarchist, tell me from the beginning. I could've saved my breath.
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