Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movement

[kindofbelieve]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

How's that working out for you?

Not bad actually -- but I'm taking it one step at a time.

[coadie]

"Social justice" teaching is not only a terrible waste of precious school hours, it is grievously harmful to poor children. Sol Stern of the Manhattan Institute says that "Teaching for social justice is a cruel hoax on disadvantaged kids."

Pay back time.

Barack Obama announced that his crony, Chicago School Superintendent Arne Duncan who also had ties to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, will be the new Secretary of Education. In the fall of 2008, Duncan announced plans to open a "gay-friendly" public high school called Pride Campus with 600 students, half homosexual and half heterosexual. Official materials proclaimed that the curriculum would "teach the history of all people who have been oppressed and the civil rights movements that have led to social justice and queer studies." After the announcement of Duncan's promotion, the opening of this unusual school was quietly postponed.

Kids won't know they were oppressed unless we teach them. Then they can get reparations.

[kindofbelieve]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

What is a law without any consequences?

Which law don't you see as legitimate? Taxation in general?

I didn't say that law would be without consequence...

The only law I abide by is this: Do what you please with the only stipulation that you don't diminish the life and property of others.

[kindofbelieve]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Do you think perspective counts for anything? Can you think of a more free nation in the known world?

Doesn't freedom come with it a degree of surrender to maintain freedom? Are you an anarchist?

No. Perspective will change depending upon environment, upbringing, and life experiences. This does not make it real or true except for a single person. There is reality and then there is perspective.

No. But that doesn't mean that we are truly free. Think of every tax, every license, every tidbit of legislation -- we are not free. We are given the perception of freedom while actually being bound.

No. That's like evil goodness or stupid intelligence. Freedom is freedom. If there is any degree of surrender it is my choice to do so.

Maybe -- it makes a lot of sense. Especially the intellectual stance of it - opposed to the chaotic, teen-age angst version that everyone seems to embrace.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by kindofbelieve

I didn't say that law would be without consequence...

The only law I abide by is this: Do what you please with the only stipulation that you don't diminish the life and property of others.

The marxist socialist agenda says if someone as decided by society needs something you have more than you do, you lose.
Marximilian is on the kick that capitalism is bad.

The liberal agenda is moral relativism. If the state can justify a move, then your freedom gets restricted.

[kindofbelieve]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Your opinion and I can't change that. But he certainly does. He has both a physical voice and an voting voice. He can print and publish what he'd like. He can run for office. He can rally together for his cause. He can lobby representatives toward his cause. He can reject a candidate at election time. Plenty of ways to "speak out."

None of that works -- except MAYBE the physical voice, printing, and publishing. And that only works on a small level. Those things reach people, one at a time and most often few and far between - unless one is already saying what is appeasing to people already.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by coadie

Actually you did. How could he remain ignorant if he wasn't ignorant?

The ignorance label is common with the elitist pushiing a social justice agenda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF12lLhMxYs

Obama's partner on the Annenberg Challenge

Bill ayers goes by his Muslim name Abu Zayd.

From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.

Remain ignorant about a topic, remain unlearned about a topic. Doesn't mean you are an ignorant person, means you are ignorant about the topic. If you are looking to be offended you will find what you want.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by kindofbelieve

Consent is consent. Lack of consent is lack of consent. Theft is theft.

Uh... no.

It's a form of implied consent when you participate in a society, elect government that passes laws, and they follow-through with those laws. You've given them permission. You are represented.

If you want to be an anarchist about it, say so, just don't call it "stealing."

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by coadie

Pay back time.


Kids won't know they were oppressed unless we teach them. Then they can get reparations.

What a bunch of Bull ......... What are you posting from? Who are these people?

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by kindofbelieve

I didn't say that law would be without consequence...

The only law I abide by is this: Do what you please with the only stipulation that you don't diminish the life and property of others.

aka You're an anarchist.