Believing in a Lie - Page 12

Evang.Benincasa · #**111** 03-01-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Evenuntodeath

Frankly, im still trying to understand the issue most men take with the holiness standards. Many of the UPC standards apply to women, not men. Not wearing shorts, avoiding the theater and beach is not some huge sacrifice on their part. Yet the men seem to throw the biggest temper tantrums. The apostolic church is majority women.

Funny how 100 years ago all churches and church goers would be considered having standards by American Churchanity today.

100 years from now people will be wearing animal skins and having church in the tops of trees.

rgcraig · #**112** 03-01-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

This right here answers the giant question mark over my own head.

Clearly your veracity is part of the issue here.

You do have a pretty well defined theology here. Your problem seems to be a divided home, and a desire to use AFF as a sounding board to reinforce your already preconcieved notions that run counter to the culture you find yourself trapped in.

I suggest you regroup, get honest with yourself and find a group of men who can help you find your way.

I would also suggest you not use AFF as the light for your path. I dont know where you will end up. and I am not suggesting your view of holiness issues is either right or wrong. Nor am I suggesting you get a group of men who can get you lined out and make you a super-con. nor am I suggesting you find a bunch of chrismatics who will slap you on the back.

but bro, you got issues. Your home is divided. Your heart is torn, and some will look at the posts here as a lack of wisdom coming to a group of people who include agnositics, bitter former apostolics, fellow wonders, conservatives and even ultra conservatives who are by and large people you do not know and will never know.

You have some work to do on you my brother. Im praying for you!

Yul Bolson!
May there always be a road.

Yup.

This was my feeling also - - someone waking up wondering what do I really believe?

hometown guy · #**113** 03-01-2013, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd

This right here answers the giant question mark over my own head.

Clearly your veracity is part of the issue here.

You do have a pretty well defined theology here. Your problem seems to be a divided home, and a desire to use AFF as a sounding board to reinforce your already preconcieved notions that run counter to the culture you find yourself trapped in.

I suggest you regroup, get honest with yourself and find a group of men who can help you find your way.

I would also suggest you not use AFF as the light for your path. I dont know where you will end up. and I am not suggesting your view of holiness issues is either right or wrong. Nor am I suggesting you get a group of men who can get you lined out and make you a super-con. nor am I suggesting you find a bunch of chrismatics who will slap you on the back.

but bro, you got issues. Your home is divided. Your heart is torn, and some will look at the posts here as a lack of wisdom coming to a group of people who include agnositics, bitter former apostolics, fellow wonders, conservatives and even ultra conservatives who are by and large people you do not know and will never know.

You have some work to do on you my brother. Im praying for you!

Yul Bolson!
May there always be a road.

Cindy · #**114** 03-01-2013, 01:45 PM

Cindy · #**115** 03-01-2013, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd

This right here answers the giant question mark over my own head.

Clearly your veracity is part of the issue here.

You do have a pretty well defined theology here. Your problem seems to be a divided home, and a desire to use AFF as a sounding board to reinforce your already preconcieved notions that run counter to the culture you find yourself trapped in.

I suggest you regroup, get honest with yourself and find a group of men who can help you find your way.

I would also suggest you not use AFF as the light for your path. I dont know where you will end up. and I am not suggesting your view of holiness issues is either right or wrong. Nor am I suggesting you get a group of men who can get you lined out and make you a super-con. nor am I suggesting you find a bunch of chrismatics who will slap you on the back.

but bro, you got issues. Your home is divided. Your heart is torn, and some will look at the posts here as a lack of wisdom coming to a group of people who include agnositics, bitter former apostolics, fellow wonders, conservatives and even ultra conservatives who are by and large people you do not know and will never know.

You have some work to do on you my brother. Im praying for you!

Yul Bolson!
May there always be a road.

rgcraig · #**116** 03-01-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Evang.Benincasa · #**117** 03-01-2013, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd

This right here answers the giant question mark over my own head.

Clearly your veracity is part of the issue here.

You do have a pretty well defined theology here. Your problem seems to be a divided home, and a desire to use AFF as a sounding board to reinforce your already preconcieved notions that run counter to the culture you find yourself trapped in.

I suggest you regroup, get honest with yourself and find a group of men who can help you find your way.

I would also suggest you not use AFF as the light for your path. I dont know where you will end up. and I am not suggesting your view of holiness issues is either right or wrong. Nor am I suggesting you get a group of men who can get you lined out and make you a super-con. nor am I suggesting you find a bunch of chrismatics who will slap you on the back.

but bro, you got issues. Your home is divided. Your heart is torn, and some will look at the posts here as a lack of wisdom coming to a group of people who include agnositics, bitter former apostolics, fellow wonders, conservatives and even ultra conservatives who are by and large people you do not know and will never know.

You have some work to do on you my brother. Im praying for you!

Yul Bolson!
May there always be a road.

That's why you're my hero.

RandyWayne · #**118** 03-01-2013, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evenuntodeath

Frankly, im still trying to understand the issue most men take with the holiness standards. Many of the UPC standards apply to women, not men. Not wearing shorts, avoiding the theater and beach is not some huge sacrifice on their part. Yet the men seem to throw the biggest temper tantrums. The apostolic church is majority women.

But what if a man likes wearing shorts, watching movies, and going to the beach?

RandyWayne · #**119** 03-01-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's why you're my hero.

I'll bet your doing your best Bette Midler impersonation right now.....

RandyWayne · #**120** 03-01-2013, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd

This right here answers the giant question mark over my own head.

Clearly your veracity is part of the issue here.

You do have a pretty well defined theology here. Your problem seems to be a divided home, and a desire to use AFF as a sounding board to reinforce your already preconcieved notions that run counter to the culture you find yourself trapped in.

I suggest you regroup, get honest with yourself and find a group of men who can help you find your way.

I would also suggest you not use AFF as the light for your path. I dont know where you will end up. and I am not suggesting your view of holiness issues is either right or wrong. Nor am I suggesting you get a group of men who can get you lined out and make you a super-con. nor am I suggesting you find a bunch of chrismatics who will slap you on the back. Also since women bare the brunt of most of the standards it is usually them who are the most fearful of leaving.

but bro, you got issues. Your home is divided. Your heart is torn, and some will look at the posts here as a lack of wisdom coming to a group of people who include agnositics, bitter former apostolics, fellow wonders, conservatives and even ultra conservatives as well as Randy Wayne who are by and large people you do not know and will never know.

You have some work to do on you my brother. Im praying for you!

Yul Bolson!
May there always be a road.

Just had to make a small edit.

But on a rare serious note, a divided house is never a good thing but in some situations are worse than others. When we belonged to the org we heard near weekly pulpit pounding about people who "rebelled" against the pastor and soon after died OR someone close to them died OR someone close to someone close DIED, etc. Leaving was a very frightful thing! So in nearly every way it is WORSE to belong to the org and have one spouse leave it then one start going where neither did before. Since women bare the brunt of most of the 'standards' they are almost always the more fearful when it comes to bailing.