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Old 06-02-2008, 09:15 PM
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Oh I am sure you could read it and critique every author, but as someone who did not have an agenda when reading it I was thinking "balance" rather than "mandates".

This balance is also found in, UPCI official, Ken Gurley's statement to the Chronicle.

The Herald does have some very good articles, and you do yourself a disservice to block them all simply because of a prior bias with the Herald as the "official" UPCI organ.
Stephen Hoover- Please forgive the posts and continue status quo. Who am I to suggest that one's balance is another's limitation? Carry on...
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Is the Herald online ....
I thought I saw something in a previous issue of the Herald about it going to be online but I don't know if it is available yet.
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Stephen Hoover- Please forgive the posts and continue status quo. Who am I to suggest that one's balance is another's limitation? Carry on...
No, it's not status quo. That's what I am saying. There appeared to be a good balance in the magazine. The Herald is not the same as it's always been, and Gurley's statement was refreshingly reasonable. I am all for progress, but recognition should be given when we see it.

Good things DO come from Nazareth occasionally.

Did you READ the issue in question?
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:02 PM
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No, it's not status quo. That's what I am saying. There appeared to be a good balance in the magazine. The Herald is not the same as it's always been, and Gurley's statement was refreshingly reasonable. I am all for progress, but recognition should be given when we see it.

Good things DO come from Nazareth occasionally.

Did you READ the issue in question?
No, I did not. I was asking Pastor Poster how he defined balance (given that I hadn't seen the issue) and didn't know if it was the normal stuff about standards or if there was a mixture of issues pertaining to the heart.

I am unaware that anything but the status quo has been allowed in the Herald for many years now.

My post about the Texas Chronicle had to do with being linked to polygamists not about how the pastor responded.

I probably shouldn't be posting now that I am here so infrequently. My posts may come across too harshly because there hasn't been time for positive and/or fluffy ones to balance what I take issue with.

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Newman,

I for one am thrilled to see you posting. I have really missed your intellect and writing ability on here.
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I have never visited Pastor Hunt's church in California so I have no personal knowledge of their "dress code". I do know he is a great man and years ago was Jonathan Suber's youth pastor. I believe he also preached at the AWCF world conference a couple months ago.

The church where Dan is associate pastor is independent and while many on this forum would probably believe it to be leaning to the liberal side, Dan started Spanish services there a couple months ago and most attending that service are fairly conservative in appearance.

Any more details would probably best come from Dan himself since he did visit Pastor Hunt's church while in California.

I was not being serious with my remark Sir. I do hope others realized that as well.
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No, I did not. I was asking Pastor Poster how he defined balance (given that I hadn't seen the issue) and didn't know if it was the normal stuff about standards or if there was a mixture of issues pertaining to the heart.

I am unaware that anything but the status quo has been allowed in the Herald for many years now.

My post about the Texas Chronicle had to do with being linked to polygamists not about how the pastor responded.

I probably shouldn't be posting now that I am here so infrequently. My posts may come across too harshly because there hasn't been time for positive and/or fluffy ones to balance what I take issue with.

Hope the Hoover family continues to be blessed.... You all are wonderful!
Newman, I am so sorry that I missed your original query.

How do I define balance?

I think you have read enough of my substantive posts (not many lately) to realize I am pretty left of center in regards to old-time standards.

This issue did not deal with specific standards. It dealt with holiness principles. I, personally, appreciated the way in which most articles were written. Of course there were some portions I disagreed with, but that is to be expected.

Overall, the tone and tenor of this issue of the Herald was very, very godly.

Brother WC Parkey had an excellent article regarding media and how we should not let it dictate our lifestyle. He was not judgemental or harsh in any way. He was simply Biblical.

Brother Cox wrote an article and included many sports analogies, which I found mind-blowing considering the magazine the article was published in.

I will try to get you and Brother Griffin a copy ASAP.
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