Will I.B. retract if 2 billion don't die soon???

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Sam

IB came for a three night series of prophecy teaching at the Covenant Apostolic Church in Cincinnati several years ago. I only went one night. I personally do not agree with his teaching on a post-tribulation rapture. That local church had a weekly tv program and on one of their programs they presented some of IB's teaching that he had given. He came out very strongly against the trinity doctrine and for baptism in Jesus' name. I did not see the program but my wife did and told me about it.

This was obviously at an Apostolic church ... yet it seems when dealing w/ the rest of mainstream Christianity via the web, prophetic conferences at a neutral venue, or radio.... the main message is Jesus Christ ... not Acts 2:38 ... (WHICH OF COURSE I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BUT MANY HERE ,AND APPARENTLY I.B. TOO, DON'T THINK THAT'S THE FULL GOSPEL)

Here is an hour long broadcast on Christ's Imminent Return within the next 10 years and there are no desperate pleas to save the hundreds of churched listeners ... rather they are seen as partners and co-laborers in his ministry ... taking the message of Jesus Christ and directing them to Endtime ministries...

How does one talk about the rapture for over an hour and not give the solution?

This was Thursday's radio broadcast:

http://www.endtime.com/archive/ram/et06-26-08.ram


I know some of the moderates on this forum would rather defend this .... but surely there are some cons here that have a problem with this apparent BLATANT contradiction?????

I'm sorry but something has to give here ... no???

No offers on how to be born again but plenty on how to give again??

Even as a liberal I'd like to see someone who is speaking on the end of the world to discuss the "Good News".

I vowed years ago never to teach and preach without somehow mentioning His Sacrifice and Resurrection in each message.

Give me Billy Graham or Steve Epley ... at least I know I'll get a Gospel message and that God desires a response.

I want my Gospel raw w/ no pussyfooting.

[Brother Price]

DA, we have placed so much focus on the 'correct interpretation and instruction of timing' concerning Bible prophecy that we have lost the focus of prophecy. Jesus said in Matthew 24:44-47, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods."

I have lost all taste, desire, or even drive to study prophecy anymore. I do not know what I believe in this area, and really could care less. I desire only one thing, and that is, whether through means of rapture or grave, whatever happens, I want to be ready, and I want to see Heaven filled with souls led to Christ. All this other stuff is secondary
at best, and a distraction in surety from our primary goal.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

DA, we have placed so much focus on the 'correct interpretation and instruction of timing' concerning Bible prophecy that we have lost the focus of prophecy. Jesus said in Matthew 24:44-47, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods."

I have lost all taste, desire, or even drive to study prophecy anymore. I do not know what I believe in this area, and really could care less. I desire only one thing, and that is, whether through means of rapture or grave, whatever happens, I want to be ready, and I want to see Heaven filled with souls led to Christ. All this other stuff is secondary
at best, and a distraction in surety from our primary goal.

I have no desire to study prophecy in this kind of depth either ...

sue me.

Surely there is a difference between a prophet and a prophetic analyst.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by 1399

wasn't there a female with the same last name that wrote about her personal experiences in hell? if yes, is she any relation to this guy?

Yes, but I doubt they are related.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

This was obviously at an Apostolic church ... yet it seems when dealing w/ the rest of mainstream Christianity via the web, prophetic conferences at a neutral venue, or radio.... the main message is Jesus Christ ... not Acts 2:38 ... (WHICH OF COURSE I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BUT MANY HERE ,AND APPARENTLY I.B. TOO, DON'T THINK THAT'S THE FULL GOSPEL)

Here is an hour long broadcast on Christ's Imminent Return within the next 10 years and there are no desperate pleas to save the hundreds of churched listeners ... rather they are seen as partners and co-laborers in his ministry ... taking the message of Jesus Christ and directing them to Endtime ministries...

How does one talk about the rapture for over an hour and not give the solution?

This was Thursday's radio broadcast:

http://www.endtime.com/archive/ram/et06-26-08.ram


I know some of the moderates on this forum would rather defend this .... but surely there are some cons here that have a problem with this apparent BLATANT contradiction?????

I'm sorry but something has to give here ... no???

No offers on how to be born again but plenty on how to give again??

Even as a liberal I'd like to see someone who is speaking on the end of the world to discuss the "Good News".

I vowed years ago never to teach and preach without somehow mentioning His Sacrifice and Resurrection in each message.

Give me Billy Graham or Steve Epley ... at least I know I'll get a Gospel message and that God desires a response.

I want my Gospel raw w/ no pussyfooting.

Ready....Aim.....FIRE...........wow......shot another soldier on our team!

[SDG]

Time is a ticking ....

IB ... will you admit you were WRONG?

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Time is a ticking ....

IB ... will you admit you were WRONG?

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It's down to the last minutes isn't it... : )

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Time is a ticking ....

IB ... will you admit you were WRONG?

Admission is not needed because IB is always careful to poise the "prophecy" as a question. It has the implication of a "Prophetic Word" at first glance but the disclaimers are in there...

[Truthseeker]

just switch to fulfilled prophecy and don't worry about it.

[ManOfWord]

The problem is that when these "prophecy" guys start down this road of being on the precipice of the "end of the end" they must keep the interest of they won't be able to sell their "wares" or predictions. The truth of the matter is that I used to know an awful lot more about prophecy than I do today!!!