Why Acts 2:38?

[mizpeh]

Why did Peter respond to those men whose hearts were pricked when they were told that they crucified the Christ? When the men asked him what must we do? Why did Peter tell them what he told them as recorded in Acts 2:38?

36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Why not tell them the things some are told every Sunday, like this one,

"God, I know that I am a sinner. I know that I deserve the consequences of my sin. However, I am trusting in Jesus Christ as my Savior. I believe that His death and resurrection provided for my forgiveness. I trust in Jesus and Jesus alone as my personal Lord and Savior. Thank you Lord, for saving me and forgiving me! Amen!" http://www.gotquestions.org/sinners-prayer.html

Why did Peter tell them to repent, be baptized, and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit instead of having them recite the sinner's prayer or something like it?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Peter spoke as The Holy Ghost led him to speak.
Acts 2:38 wasn't Peter's main message it was His altar call.
Since the day of Pentecost is when the church began it is important for foundational truth.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Why did Peter respond to those men whose hearts were pricked when they were told that they crucified the Christ? When the men asked him what must we do? Why did Peter tell them what he told them as recorded in Acts 2:38?

36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Why not tell them the things some are told every Sunday, like this one,

"God, I know that I am a sinner. I know that I deserve the consequences of my sin. However, I am trusting in Jesus Christ as my Savior. I believe that His death and resurrection provided for my forgiveness. I trust in Jesus and Jesus alone as my personal Lord and Savior. Thank you Lord, for saving me and forgiving me! Amen!" http://www.gotquestions.org/sinners-prayer.html

Why did Peter tell them to repent, be baptized, and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit instead of having them recite the sinner's prayer or something like it?

Why didn't tell them thy faith alone saveth thee?

[Baron1710]

Then Peter continued preaching for a long time, strongly urging all his listeners, "Save yourselves from this crooked generation!" NLT Acts 2:40

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Then Peter continued preaching for a long time, strongly urging all his listeners, "Save yourselves from this crooked generation!" NLT Acts 2:40

And what do you suppose Peter would have told them to do in order to save themselves from this crooked generation? The same thing he told the others to do in Acts 2:38?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

And what do you suppose Peter would have told them to do in order to save themselves from this crooked generation? The same thing he told the others to do in Acts 2:38?

Uhm... the "others" in Acts 2:38, are the same individuals that Peter is speaking to in Acts 2:40. Same preacher. Same crowd.

Are you following along in Acts 2?

[corvet786c]

Why not acts 2:38??

[DAII]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

Why not acts 2:38??

Every Christian I know believes and has obeyed Acts 2:38. They believe all of the Word.

The misdirection comes from those who believe their monopolistic paradigm to be an exclusive members-only card.

I find subsequent sermons and "first hand" accounts by Peter where he preaches or summarized the Gospel in Acts 3, 4, and 10, 11, and 15 ...

I even find Peter in Acts 3:19 EXPLICITLY CLARIFYING when our sins our washed:
Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out ...

I don't find the 20th century devised template repeated in the same manner subsequently either.

And yet nowhere also do I find the following:

- A doctrine of essential and efficacious baptismal invocation ...

nor that a proper baptism must be precise and have the right verbal formulation to be saved.

But rather a clear bible-based understanding that "in the name of the Lord" is not a line to be parroted but by the authority and power of the person, Jesus Christ ... (who is mighty to save).

Titles invoked of the SAME multi-faceted God or the transliterated proper name of Iesous verbalized ... or not ... they have all been baptized in His name upon the confession of their faith in Him. Salvation does not hang on a 3rd party witness or officiator of baptism. Salvation hung on the Cross.

- Nor that glossalia must accompany the gift of the Holy Ghost (which is eternal life)

IN ORDER TO BE SAVED.

That given ... the denial that the Acts 2:38 Water and Spirit doctrine has become an automated, mass-produced process is VERY EVIDENT IN THE BORAT CASE ...

The man repeated after Godwin ... and then spoke in the tongues he was instructed to ... while some rejoiced to his salvation with unbridled, wild ecstasy.

I've been around Oneness Pentecost for over three decades and saw this type of UNBIBLICAL forced "birthing" too many times ....

To deny that altars have become a three step "soul wash" with little concern to the genuine article, but rather a trophy of accumulated soul widgets, is evident every time I get on Facebook on a Sunday evening with posts like:

12 HG and 8 H20

is to deny the reckless arrogance of those drunk with their religious exclusivity ... parading their circumcision and pedigree.

In the Apostolic letters, I find the apostles not reporting salvations in this way .... not once ... WHY NOT?????

This is not the how the 1st century church taught or spoke about salvation. It's re-packaged judaizing.

Demand and require all the outward you like to the letter of your law ... but that does not change the Word or how God has approached His children:

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by DAII

In the Apostolic letters, I find the apostles not reporting salvations in this way .... not once ... WHY NOT?????

Some numbers mentioned in the book of Acts:
About 120 in attendace and all were filled....
3000 added to the church in a day....
The whole household....

Giving glory to God for His increase is awesome, giving out numbers for our own glory is not.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by DAII

Every Christian I know believes and has obeyed Acts 2:38. They believe all of the Word.

The misdirection comes from those who believe their monopolistic paradigm to be an exclusive members-only card.

I find subsequent sermons and "first hand" accounts by Peter where he preaches or summarized the Gospel in Acts 3, 4, and 10, 11, and 15 ...

I even find Peter in Acts 3:19 EXPLICITLY CLARIFYING when our sins our washed:
Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out ...

I don't find the 20th century devised template repeated in the same manner subsequently either.

And yet nowhere also do I find the following:

- A doctrine of essential and efficacious baptismal invocation ...

nor that a proper baptism must be precise and have the right verbal formulation to be saved.

But rather a clear bible-based understanding that "in the name of the Lord" is not a line to be parroted but by the authority and power of the person, Jesus Christ ... (who is mighty to save).

Titles invoked of the SAME multi-faceted God or the transliterated proper name of Iesous verbalized ... or not ... they have all been baptized in His name upon the confession of their faith in Him. Salvation does not hang on a 3rd party witness or officiator of baptism. Salvation hung on the Cross.

- Nor that glossalia must accompany the gift of the Holy Ghost (which is eternal life)

IN ORDER TO BE SAVED.

That given ... the denial that the Acts 2:38 Water and Spirit doctrine has become an automated, mass-produced process is VERY EVIDENT IN THE BORAT CASE ...

The man repeated after Godwin ... and then spoke in the tongues he was instructed to ... while some rejoiced to his salvation with unbridled, wild ecstasy.

I've been around Oneness Pentecost for over three decades and saw this type of UNBIBLICAL forced "birthing" too many times ....

To deny that altars have become a three step "soul wash" with little concern to the genuine article, but rather a trophy of accumulated soul widgets, is evident every time I get on Facebook on a Sunday evening with posts like:

12 HG and 8 H20

is to deny the reckless arrogance of those drunk with their religious exclusivity ... parading their circumcision and pedigree.

In the Apostolic letters, I find the apostles not reporting salvations in this way .... not once ... WHY NOT?????

This is not the how the 1st century church taught or spoke about salvation. It's re-packaged judaizing.

Demand and require all the outward you like to the letter of your law ... but that does not change the Word or how God has approached His children:

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Brilliant statement.