Not Ashamed - Page 15

Sister Alvear · #**141** 09-22-2011, 10:07 AM

I think Brother Epley would answer any question. You may not agree with his answer on any certain question I may not even agree but he is no coward. I personally know him and hope he does not mind me saying this if he does he is free to ask to have this post deleted.
Brother Epley used to preach or be in the Branamite doctrine. He walked away from it, denouced it even when close kin were very involved. In my book even though we do not see eye to eye I do not see him as a coward. We do see differently namely on women preachers and maybe other things. We have never sat down and talked doctrine.
He has been honest about facial hair on men...he does not see it wrong but does not want it in his church. That takes a real man in the world he lives in to make that kind of statement.

Timmy, if he sees your question I feel he will answer. I do not know how much he reads here.

Sister Alvear · #**142** 09-22-2011, 10:10 AM

and I am not political by nature so what I said is not to get me points with Brother Epley. He supports other missionaries in Brazil so there is no money interest involved. Sometimes people think they read between the lines in my posts...but those that read between the lines do not know me up close.

Timmy · #**143** 09-22-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I think Brother Epley would answer any question. You may not agree with his answer on any certain question I may not even agree but he is no coward. I personally know him and hope he does not mind me saying this if he does he is free to ask to have this post deleted.
Brother Epley used to preach or be in the Branamite doctrine. He walked away from it, denouced it even when close kin were very involved. In my book even though we do not see eye to eye I do not see him as a coward. We do see differently namely on women preachers and maybe other things. We have never sat down and talked doctrine.
He has been honest about facial hair on men...he does not see it wrong but does not want it in his church. That takes a real man in the world he lives in to make that kind of statement.

Timmy, if he sees your question I feel he will answer. I do not know how much he reads here.

The vote is 6-2 against, now. A lot of AFFers don't know the Bible, apparently!

BTW, I'd agree with you about Elder Epley, most of the time. But a long time back, he refused to tell me whether my Trinitarian grandma is in hell. Said he didn't know! It was up to God! Weird.

Sister Alvear · #**144** 09-22-2011, 10:14 AM

Well, Timmy how can any one of us know who goes to heaven or hell? We are not God. Sure all of us or at least most of us feel we have found the way...but we all depend on HIS MERCY AND GRACE for HE and HE alone knows the cost of redemption.

Timmy · #**145** 09-22-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Well, Timmy how can any one of us know who goes to heaven or hell? We are not God. Sure all of us or at least most of us feel we have found the way...but we all depend on HIS MERCY AND GRACE for HE and HE alone knows the cost of redemption.

But doesn't the Bible teach us how to know, based on what we believe? You may not think a Trinitarian would end up in hell, but I sure thought Bro E. would have.

Sister Alvear · #**146** 09-22-2011, 10:17 AM

Timmy, Brother Epley is a kind man...he may come across here sometimes different but in all reality he is kind. I think on many things his answer would be...the person is in the hands of a just and merciful God.

Timmy · #**147** 09-22-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Timmy, Brother Epley is a kind man...he may come across here sometimes different but in all reality he is kind. I think on many things his answer would be...the person is in the hands of a just and merciful God.

But again, doesn't the Bible tell us how to be saved? So, why not say, if someone has not followed its instructions (according to their interpretation of it, and SE is not shy about telling us all what that is!), he or she will end up in hell?

Jack Shephard · #**148** 09-22-2011, 12:19 PM

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Love and mercy never gets preached in UC churches.... Not enough "Amen!" reactions from the congregation. You see, showing someone love and mercy who don't seem to deserve it can be quite... challenging. Trying to look more holy than the person next to you can be much more.... personally gratifying.

And if you want to talk roach scatterers, the true master was Phillip Jones. He sure put me in MY place! We need him to shine the light on the earthworms moving just beneath the surface of the soil. (Of course earthworms are absolutely vital to the environment -they keep the soil from going completely anaerobic and thus destroying the roots of the plants growing just above it.)

The part highlighted above.... I agree. The if some preachers got paid by the amens they get people to say the UC churches would be full of fatcats. The times that grace and mercy are taught in some OP churches, and the amens come, I am afraid that their view of grace and mercy is messed up. I know many think that God's grace and mercy allowed them to get the HG and speak in tongues and ignore g&m for any other area. There are some UC's and OP's that do understand grace, but they choose to live "tight but right" anyway. Just my thoughts...

berkeley · #**149** 09-22-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Well, Timmy how can any one of us know who goes to heaven or hell? .

He believes that ALL Trinitarians are lost, in a devil's HELL! It's a YES or a NO. Why back pedal like a coward?

Timmy · #**150** 09-22-2011, 12:40 PM

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He believes that ALL Trinitarians are lost, in a devil's HELL! It's a YES or a NO. Why back pedal like a coward?

Well, he explained it like this: Yes, trinnies are lost. But it turns out, if someone dies "lost", they won't necessarily end up in hell. God may have mercy. I kid you not.