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UnTraditional · #1 10-23-2011, 06:32 AM

A denial of the truth of the eternal justice of God on the basis of human understanding and compassion, a lowered attitude toward sin and the degrading of the truth of the horrendous crime against the holiness of God that sin is, such things are what birth and construct this annihilation doctrine. It is when men think with their carnal heart instead of heeding to the scriptures that this heresy comes into being.

Michael The Disciple · #2 10-23-2011, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by UnTraditional

A denial of the truth of the eternal justice of God on the basis of human understanding and compassion, a lowered attitude toward sin and the degrading of the truth of the horrendous crime against the holiness of God that sin is, such things are what birth and construct this annihilation doctrine. It is when men think with their carnal heart instead of heeding to the scriptures that this heresy comes into being.

No it is not based on these things. The attitude of God towards sin is seen in that lukewarm and sinning Christians themselves will be cast into Hell. God is offended by their cults that teach "you cant be perfect".

Annihilation doctrine is based simply on what God says are the wages of sin.

Old Testament:

18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Ezekiel 18:4

New Testament:

6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:21-23

Those who oppose the truth say mans soul is immortal and cannot die.

God says even the brethren who turn back will suffer the death of their SOUL.

5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20

UnTraditional · #3 10-23-2011, 09:56 AM

An eternal injustice against the Holy One deems an eternal separation from God. You demean the severity of sin by making the judgment against it total destruction instead of total damnation as we deserve.

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And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:10-15)

Folks, the Bible does not lie. Hell is eternal, it is real, and all who are not in Christ shall be there day and night for all eternity. Annihilationism is a doctrine which demeans the truth about sin, the holiness of God, and the righteousness of His judgment.

Praxeas · #4 10-23-2011, 09:58 AM

But is Hell literally an area? a Location? Or is it a condition? A quality? A state of being?

Michael The Disciple · #5 10-23-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by UnTraditional

An eternal injustice against the Holy One deems an eternal separation from God. You demean the severity of sin by making the judgment against it total destruction instead of total damnation as we deserve.

Folks, the Bible does not lie. Hell is eternal, it is real, and all who are not in Christ shall be there day and night for all eternity. Annihilationism is a doctrine which demeans the truth about sin, the holiness of God, and the righteousness of His judgment.

Paul was an apostle. He knew the truth of Christs foundation teachings.

Not even one time did he mention anyone burning for eternity. Nope. Not one time. My Pastor told me this many years ago and at first I didnt believe him. I went about to prove him wrong. He was right.

UnTraditional · #6 10-23-2011, 04:24 PM

But, Revelation did teach it! I proved it clearly and concisely. And even posted the scripture. Your pastor was dead wrong if he was/is an annihilationist. Scripture proves this heresy wrong.

freeatlast · #7 10-23-2011, 05:56 PM

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But, Revelation did teach it! I proved it clearly and concisely. And even posted the scripture. Your pastor was dead wrong if he was/is an annihilationist. Scripture proves this heresy wrong.

You'll change your mind on this one too, someday.

UnTraditional · #8 10-23-2011, 06:05 PM

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You'll change your mind on this one too, someday.

Hey FAL! Legalism walked away from me. So, I let you all go! You cannot be part of where Jesus is bringing me, where He is taking me. You cannot fathom where my mistakes, my backsliding, my failures have led me, but also where His grace is taking me! Keep your holier-than-thou self walking away. While you're talking, I'll keep on walking! Hands washed, life cleansed, destiny driven, and free from the opinions of haters and false friends!

Peace out man! Just gotta walk on.

NotforSale · #9 10-24-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Hey FAL! Legalism walked away from me. So, I let you all go!

You cannot be part of where Jesus is bringing me, where He is taking me.

You cannot fathom where my mistakes, my backsliding, my failures have led me, but also where His grace is taking me! Keep your holier-than-thou self walking away.

While you're talking, I'll keep on walking! Hands washed, life cleansed, destiny driven, and free from the opinions of haters and false friends!

Peace out man! Just gotta walk on.

freeatlast · #10 10-24-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by untraditional

hey fal! Legalism walked away from me. So, i let you all go! You cannot be part of where jesus is bringing me, where he is taking me. You cannot fathom where my mistakes, my backsliding, my failures have led me, but also where his grace is taking me! keep your holier-than-thou self walking away. while you're talking, i'll keep on walking! Hands washed, life cleansed, destiny driven, and free from the opinions of haters and false friends!

Peace out man! Just gotta walk on.

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