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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Here's the deal, CC1.  She IS a sweet woman who loves the Lord. She had/has a THEORY about what I Corinthians 11 REALLY means, and wrote about it. Nothing at all wrong with that. What is WRONG is that the organization, an entity made up of ministers who ought to know better, has not suppressed an unbiblical doctrine, but has endorsed it by allowing her to teach her opinions at organizational events, sell her books, and other ministers have actually jumped on the bandwagon WITH her.
THEY are the ones who need to be charged with subterfuge and spreading of false doctrine, not RH.
It is my opinion that the upci as a whole has allowed this to continue, unbiblical or not, because it supports and cements an existing rule in such a way that women are fearful NOT to follow it. I find that motive, if it does exist, to be morally repugnant and unethical. |
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You said it correctly and very well. I agree with your opinion at the conclusion.
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06-04-2008, 10:17 AM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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. I believe that the only 'power' that comes with the long hair is from the faith a person has in it.
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Exactly!
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06-04-2008, 10:18 AM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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It is my opinion that the upci as a whole has allowed this to continue, unbiblical or not, because it supports and cements an existing rule in such a way that women are fearful NOT to follow it. I find that motive, if it does exist, to be morally repugnant and unethical.
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Pretty strong ... but the truth.
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06-04-2008, 10:20 AM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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And that none of the UPC Bible college instructors has spoken against, written an article or book in opposition to this is amazing and perhaps telling!
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Actually at CLC it has been addressed and been refuted by some of the instructors.
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06-04-2008, 10:21 AM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Actually at CLC it has been addressed and been refuted by some of the instructors.
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That's good to hear! Are the articles or discussions online?
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06-04-2008, 10:21 AM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Actually at CLC it has been addressed and been refuted by some of the instructors.
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Hmmmmm.....seems to me the kind of doctrine Jr. would jump on since it reinforces the uncut hair doctrine.
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06-04-2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Amazing. It would just be easier to say it is a tradition. At least it is more understandable.
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Tradition...yeah that was easy. LOL
I have no trouble with traditions, but when traditions become monuments to a movement or a movement by itself that is where tradition takes a dive. Jesus destroyed traditions of men. He loathes traditions and He never fit the traditions bill.
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06-04-2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Hmmmmm.....seems to me the kind of doctrine Jr. would jump on since it reinforces the uncut hair doctrine.
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He did say "some"
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Your point is well taken. Howeve I do not excuse her from writing the heresey in the first place.
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Well, I don't necessarily agree that a person is wrong for voicing their understanding of scripture, even if they are way off in left field. In the ideal situation, her husband and/or pastor would have sat down with her, had a discussion, and said, "Hey, this is not biblical, you need to rethink things, and writing a book is a bad idea." However, from my understanding, her "pastor" was busy with other...things.
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06-04-2008, 11:06 AM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Well, I don't necessarily agree that a person is wrong for voicing their understanding of scripture, even if they are way off in left field. In the ideal situation, her husband and/or pastor would have sat down with her, had a discussion, and said, "Hey, this is not biblical, you need to rethink things, and writing a book is a bad idea." However, from my understanding, her "pastor" was busy with other...things.
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LOL!
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