TJ, that is downright insulting, and I don't wear pants.
It's also not true. (I think we need to be careful when using hyperbole to still keep our statements truthful.)
All we are doing is arguing culture here, we're certainly not arguing Bible.
The only scripture anyone can ever come up with is 'that which pertaineth to a man', and at the time that verse was written, both sexes wore dresses.
We are arguing culture, and culture changes.
So you'll have to try again.
Sis, I know that you don't wear pants, and I am not trying to be overly insulting. I am being a little aggressive as I see the other side being aggresive in their attitudes.
In our culture, they view a man dressing in a dress as a crossdresser. I just see it as the same when a woman wears pants, thats all!
We are arguing culture and, although our culture has softened it's stance somewhat in this arena, the dress is still associated with a woman.
Try again!
PS Besides, if I did not defend the ultracon position then they would say we have all left, can't have that now can we?
Sis, I know that you don't wear pants, and I am not trying to be overly insulting. I am being a little aggressive as I see the other side being aggresive in their attitudes.
In our culture, they view a man dressing in a dress as a crossdresser. I just see it as the same when a woman wears pants, thats all!
We are arguing culture and, although our culture has softened it's stance somewhat in this arena, the dress is still associated with a woman.
Try again!
PS Besides, if I did not defend the ultracon position then they would say we have all left, can't have that now can we?
The thing is, when you see a woman in pants you don't think she's a cross-dresser. Not really. You don't give it a second glance, like you would if you saw a man in a dress. If you do a double-take every time you see a woman in pants, I'll bet you have a sore neck.
Of course, in our culture, dresses are associated with women. But now pants are, too. If doesn't have to be one or the other. In Scotland, men wear pants, they also wear kilts. At our state fair I saw a Scottish band wearing kilts, and I didn't think a thing about it. I didn't think they looked feminine, they looked appropriate. It was a Scottish band, they wear kilts. It's a cultural thing.
All we are debating is culture. And our culture now accepts both men and women in pants. Who knows, in 400 years, we may all be wearing robes again?
•The Inner Tunic - a long piece of plain cotton or linen cloth as an undergarment for the upper body, but sometimes reaching all the way down to the ankles. It was usually not worn when the weather was very warm.
•The Tunic-coat, or Ketonet - a shirt-like garment worn over the inner tunic in cool weather, or next to the body without the inner tunic when warm. It usually had long sleeves (today comes short or long sleeves) and extended down to the ankles. Today you see the children of God wearing what may look like a long dress, but in reality is a long white T-shirt some would call a nightgown today. It is the closest thing to what men wore in Jesus days. Wear only cotton next to your body and in Ecclesiastes 9:8 it tells us to only wear white garments.
•The Belt, or Girdle - made of leather, from 2 to 6 inches wide, sometimes with a shoulder strap when heavier articles were being carried from it.
•The Cloke, or Mantle - a robe worn over all of the other items of clothing as an outer garment for warmth and appearance.
•The Headdress - worn chiefly as a protection against the sun. The Hebrew version could, depending upon circumstances, be a cap, a turban, or a head scarf.
•Shoes or Sandals - shoes were made from soft leather, sandals from harder leather.
For Women -
•The Inner Tunic - a long garment reaching all the way down to the ankles. It was usually of a finer quality cotton, linen or silk.
•The Outer Tunic - a full-length garment, again of finer quality than the men's version, and almost always enhanced with fine needlework and/or multicolor threads.
•The Belt, or Girdle - made of colorful silk or wool, sometimes with a fringe from the waist nearly to the ankles.
•The Cloke - warm and durable for protection against cool weather, and usually more intricate.
•The Headdress - a lighter and finer quality than the men's version, and always more colorful. Women also usually had elaborate plaiting or other arrangement of their hair, which tended to be long.
•Shoes or Sandals - shoes were made from soft leather, sandals from harder leather.
•From the "children of God"
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It's just that this has been rehashed so many times, and I for one couldn't care less. It's a dumb thing to get hung up on regardless of which side you're on.
So, instead of "keep trying", I suggest, "who cares?"
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds... - Ralph Waldo Emerson
It's just that this has been rehashed so many times, and I for one couldn't care less. It's a dumb thing to get hung up on regardless of which side you're on.
So, instead of "keep trying", I suggest, "who cares?"
It's not dumb if the UCs are right! Wouldn't that be funny? A tongue-talking, Jesus-name-baptized, monotheistic, long-haired lady shows up for the final judgment, and it's "Depart from me, you wearer of pants! I never knew you!"
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Well, if men REALLY want to look like JESUS then they should dress as HE dressed!
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