All have sinned and come short. Although I do believe that it is possible to go and sin no more as Jesus once had said to the woman caught in adultery. JMHO
I think we have to look at that in context and ask a few questions. We see that Jesus told her to go and "sin no more" and sometimes teach that after meeting Jesus we are to go and never sin again. I think when Jesus told her to "go and sin no more" he was talking about her specific sin in context, "Go and commit adultery no more." I don't believe Jesus expected her to walk away perfect never to sin again. But this sin almost got her killed... he wanted her to repent of it and never return to such a lifestyle.
I’ll share my thoughts on this if you don’t mind. I don’t think that if a young man sees a beautiful woman and appreciates her beauty he has sinned. I don’t think if he has an intimate thought about her that he has sinned. He might even entertain a fantasy about her, and still I don’t think he has sinned. I do believe that the moment he determines to actually pursue her as an object to satisfy his carnal desires, he has sinned in his heart before he has even said hello.
On this specific example I would probably mostly agree, but I could name any number of others. For instance at what micro-point does envy become a sin (or specifically, desire become envy)? At what point are we failing to love our neighbor as our self? For me I would phrase the poll question NOT as a yes/no question of sin versus sinlessness but rather perfection and anything LESS then perfection.
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On this specific example I would probably mostly agree, but I could name any number of others. For instance at what micro-point does envy become a sin? At what point are we failing to love our neighbor as our self? For me I would phrase the poll question NOT as a yes/no question of sin versus sinlessness but rather perfection and anything LESS then perfection.
Then start your own poll!
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I think we have to look at that in context and ask a few questions. We see that Jesus told her to go and "sin no more" and sometimes teach that after meeting Jesus we are to go and never sin again. I think when Jesus told her to "go and sin no more" he was talking about her specific sin in context, "Go and commit adultery no more." I don't believe Jesus expected her to walk away perfect never to sin again. But this sin almost got her killed... he wanted her to repent of it and never return to such a lifestyle.
Could be that you are right; however, Jesus didn't tell the woman not to go and "commit adultery no more", but he in contrast did say "go and sin no more". You think Jesus was using the very word 'sin' in a narrow perspective of the word? the word sin is pretty broad in my opinion.
I'm not trying to split hairs with you my friend, everyone is a sinner. That being said some of us are saved through grace. I think we can work towards a sinless life, whether it is entirely possible to live a Christian lifestyle without sinning again doesn't seem feesable, but who are we to say that it isn't at least in theory possible?
I ask this because there is the Law of God (the Ten Commandments) and the Law of Moses (Mosaic Law). Essentially God inspired Moses to codify how their society was to keep and obey the Law of God. While the Law of Moses is definately no longer applicable and definately doesn't apply to the Church, the question is... how do we relate to the moral Law of God? Most of us lump the Ten Commandments in with the Law of Moses and assume it's all the same and all put away. I don't believe that's so. I believe the Law of God, the Ten Commandments, are still commandments to be obeyed. We are simply not bound to obey them in the way ancient Israel did via the Law of Moses. I believe that the Ten Commandments are eternally binding and set the standard of what God expects from all mankind:
III
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord
thy God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain
IV
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy
V
Honor thy father and thy mother,
that thy days may be long upon the land
which the Lord thy God giveth thee
VI
Thou shalt not murder
VII
Thou shalt not commit adultery
VIII
Thou shalt not steal
IX
Thou shalt not bear false witness
against thy neighbor
X
Thou shalt not covet
If an action doesn't break one of these in some way, it's not sin. That's just my take on it.
I believe Mosaic law and the ten commandment are one and the same. The entire detailed law is simply encapsulated in the Ten.
No man was ever able to keep the Ten but Christ.
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Why is everyone avoiding my questions as to why Gal 3:10 assumes no one can keep law and how Paul said everyone in Adam dies?
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