Pictures of the Youth Congress~

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Ultra Com...your posts bother me...not because I have any desire to change anything your pastor teaches. Mine probably teaches the same.
AM is not my idol but neither are some name brand UC´s...Jesus is my hero. I long to be like Him and make Him known. We learn our greatest lessons from the God that robed himself in flesh and became a man...a real man...Christ never verbally abused those who verbally abused him. When he suffered, he didn't make any threats but left everything to the one who judges fairly. ( 1 Pet.2:23)
Would it not be more God-like to live what the Bible teaches? No matter how liberal you claim yourself to be or how ulta con you claim to be there are pastors and church workers that you have showed little or no respect to.
I am not UPC but if I were and felt I could not carry that flag I would quitely bow out. Why kill those that have given bread to you? I have never been UPC or ACI or AMF or ALJC, etc. The God I serve is bigger than any of them groups but I respect them. I may not like some of the things some stand for but they do love the same Jesus I love and we are all baptized in His name.

You don´t like the way the youth congress went...that is ok...you were not the only one BUT some did and some were blessed. Rejoice in that fact.

I thought the rain machine I rented for our kids for them to do a song and theme in their congress was funny...but while that thing was spitting out little tiny shreads of silver paper that was supposed to be rain these kids were weeping all over our church and recieving the Holy Ghost. Something about that related to them. It did not relate to me an old woman...My weeping and speaking in tongues had nothing to do with the rain machine but did have to do with a bunch of kids I love worshipping hours in the presence of the Lord.
A lot of things we don´t do for us we do for others. The Bible says, He that winneth souls is wise. Sometimes we do odd stuff to win a soul.

I don´t always like te songs the church musicians play but it is NOT to me it is to God. He seems to like those songs a lot and blesses while they sing them.

I have watched and noticed over the years in many places if the pastor doesn´t like golf then it is a sin...if he doesn´t like 6 flags then it is a sin...if he doesn´t like some said thing then it is a sin...Whatever that makes us feel more spiritual than the church across town is what we measure of depth of spirituality by...

See I lived when it was a sin among the ultra cons to wear red...and toeless shoes and hose without a seam and all kinds of things, babies were born at home an asprin was as bad as smoking and on and on...I have been in services when they preached wearing glasses was doubting God and watched people break their glasses...then those that kept their glasses were surely lacking faith...
I am not making fun of things that are preached but I see you haven´t been around long and you are in for a shock or two along the way.

YOU HAVE got to get an experience in your heart that becomes a 24/7 way of life.

Incredible post!!!!! Made me step back and search for perspective! Thank You!!!!

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Ultra Com...your posts bother me...not because I have any desire to change anything your pastor teaches. Mine probably teaches the same.
AM is not my idol but neither are some name brand UC´s...Jesus is my hero. I long to be like Him and make Him known. We learn our greatest lessons from the God that robed himself in flesh and became a man...a real man...Christ never verbally abused those who verbally abused him. When he suffered, he didn't make any threats but left everything to the one who judges fairly. ( 1 Pet.2:23)
Would it not be more God-like to live what the Bible teaches? No matter how liberal you claim yourself to be or how ulta con you claim to be there are pastors and church workers that you have showed little or no respect to.
I am not UPC but if I were and felt I could not carry that flag I would quitely bow out. Why kill those that have given bread to you? I have never been UPC or ACI or AMF or ALJC, etc. The God I serve is bigger than any of them groups but I respect them. I may not like some of the things some stand for but they do love the same Jesus I love and we are all baptized in His name.

You don´t like the way the youth congress went...that is ok...you were not the only one BUT some did and some were blessed. Rejoice in that fact.

I thought the rain machine I rented for our kids for them to do a song and theme in their congress was funny...but while that thing was spitting out little tiny shreads of silver paper that was supposed to be rain these kids were weeping all over our church and recieving the Holy Ghost. Something about that related to them. It did not relate to me an old woman...My weeping and speaking in tongues had nothing to do with the rain machine but did have to do with a bunch of kids I love worshipping hours in the presence of the Lord.
A lot of things we don´t do for us we do for others. The Bible says, He that winneth souls is wise. Sometimes we do odd stuff to win a soul.

I don´t always like te songs the church musicians play but it is NOT to me it is to God. He seems to like those songs a lot and blesses while they sing them.

I have watched and noticed over the years in many places if the pastor doesn´t like golf then it is a sin...if he doesn´t like 6 flags then it is a sin...if he doesn´t like some said thing then it is a sin...Whatever that makes us feel more spiritual than the church across town is what we measure of depth of spirituality by...

See I lived when it was a sin among the ultra cons to wear red...and toeless shoes and hose without a seam and all kinds of things, babies were born at home an asprin was as bad as smoking and on and on...I have been in services when they preached wearing glasses was doubting God and watched people break their glasses...then those that kept their glasses were surely lacking faith...
I am not making fun of things that are preached but I see you haven´t been around long and you are in for a shock or two along the way.

YOU HAVE got to get an experience in your heart that becomes a 24/7 way of life.

OK...Im just gonna sit at your feet and have a good cry!!

Awesome Mother A...Just Awesome.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

UC did not run away, he went to church tonight. We had service tonight b/c of GC this week. BTW it would take more than my toes to count our people. We had 150 in service tonight. Hardly a mega church but that's only 3 1/2 years. Plus that's not all of our people. I'd be willing to say for a fact that at 90% of our people are on board with what we teach. Before you start throughing out the liar line you must first examine all the liberal UPC preachers with TV in their home. Start with your idol AM. From reading the post for the past couple of hours I now have about as much respect for some of you as I do him and that's zero. Now, or the sake of my attitude I humbly bow out of all conversation reguarding this issue. I will refrain from posting on here anymore. I'll simply return to the CAF where there are men of like faith. Good day to all the posters on AFF. This may now return to the liberal left wing forum that you always wanted.

I didn't make the "toes" remark....

AM is not my idol....

I am sorry to doubt the 90% assertion...in my life I have never seen it flesh out like that in the UC churches...trut is, you don't know and you painted youuself in the corner because you said, "They are not UC." I didn't do that...you did.

You can keep standing n your high horse if you want but the condescending attitude is very clear. Botttom line is this, FOG isn't evident in the YC videos or pics...light simply light up the stage...and neither of these things replaced the anitning in that service....and I'm not UPC but will still defend them from the mis-truth that has been spoken here.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I am sorry to doubt the 90% assertion...in my life I have never seen it flesh out like that in the UC churches...trut is, you don't know and you painted youuself in the corner because you said, "They are not UC." I didn't do that...you did.

So what would be the CORRECT percentage in UC's church?

[MissBrattified]

What I have found to be true is that most people in UC churches comply with the rules and guidelines whether they agree with them or not. "On board" could be taken to mean "agree with", and I'd have to disagree with the 90% too if that's the case...however, if it just means "follow" or "comply with"...well...in the UC church I attended, it was more like 99%.

It could also be pointed out that many UC churches have heavyhanded leadership, and as a result, those who do disagree with what is taught would never DARE to say so, except in a very private setting.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

So what would be the CORRECT percentage in UC's church?

If you have to ask this question then you totally missed my point...soooo.....let me try to give it to ya....

There is no way to really know! His post had an arrogant..."We all do everything the pastor preaches because its in our heart..."...but there is no way this poster knows what is going on in the private lives of the other saints in that church.

How many of them turn on a TV in a hotel room....who knows?

How many of them watch Thanksgiving Day football at the non-UC family gathering....who knows?

Do i think 90 or 99 percent of the average UC saints do it all to the letter...not that I have seen among the ones I have been with...and that's a bunch of them...

LOL...when they are TOGETHER...they'll make a manager of the pizza joint turn off the TV without regard to the other people in the restaurant...but when they are not TOGETHER they are the ones in the living room of grandma's house with their eyes glued to the screen...

UC can post all he wants about how much his fellow congregants follow it all...but he really doesn't know who is hypocriting and who is not...

My experience has been that many UC's live a double life...when they are together they are like staunch holy...but when they are not they "don't let their right hand know what their left hand is doing."

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

UC did not run away, he went to church tonight. We had service tonight b/c of GC this week. BTW it would take more than my toes to count our people. We had 150 in service tonight. Hardly a mega church but that's only 3 1/2 years. Plus that's not all of our people. I'd be willing to say for a fact that at 90% of our people are on board with what we teach. Before you start throughing out the liar line you must first examine all the liberal UPC preachers with TV in their home. Start with your idol AM. From reading the post for the past couple of hours I now have about as much respect for some of you as I do him and that's zero. Now, or the sake of my attitude I humbly bow out of all conversation reguarding this issue. I will refrain from posting on here anymore. I'll simply return to the CAF where there are men of like faith. Good day to all the posters on AFF. This may now return to the liberal left wing forum that you always wanted.

Originally Posted by UltraCon

UC did not run away, he went to church tonight. We had service tonight b/c of GC this week. BTW it would take more than my toes to count our people. We had 150 in service tonight. Hardly a mega church but that's only 3 1/2 years. Plus that's not all of our people. I'd be willing to say for a fact that at 90% of our people are on board with what we teach. Before you start throughing out the liar line you must first examine all the liberal UPC preachers with TV in their home. Start with your idol AM. From reading the post for the past couple of hours I now have about as much respect for some of you as I do him and that's zero. Now, or the sake of my attitude I humbly bow out of all conversation reguarding this issue. I will refrain from posting on here anymore. I'll simply return to the CAF where there are men of like faith. Good day to all the posters on AFF. This may now return to the liberal left wing forum that you always wanted.

1sy Bolded
Ignorance becomes you......

2nd Bolded
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3rd bolded
You DO know that the forum is owned by 3 very conservative UPCI Pastors...RIGHT??

I wonder if this is Wholehearted twin???

One will never know.:sshhh

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Strongminded

1sy Bolded
Ignorance becomes you......

2nd Bolded
""

3rd bolded
You DO know that the forum is owned by 3 very conservative UPCI Pastors...RIGHT??

I wonder if this is Wholehearted twin???

One will never know.:sshhh

Surely this is not an "attack".


J/K

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Surely this is not an "attack".


J/K

sometimes truth can be perceived as an attack!


I know I know...you can use that line to.