Re: Man made standards. Who do they think they are
...The amount of time spent on discussing clothing, of all things, in Christianity.
(Still amazed.)
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Re: Man made standards. Who do they think they are
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Originally Posted by pelathais
How do you know Eve covered hers?
The root of the word translated as "aprons" in Genesis 3:7, means a "belt" or "for the waist." If we're going to parse it finely then we will see them having covered their genitals and not their pecs or mams.
We know, to use the logic behind the bathroom signs, because all the art work depicts them that way. In fact there are far more paintings depicting our Lady Liberty nearly topless as she leads her army into battle then there is of Eve.
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But what did God cover?
Gen 3:21 And the LORD God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins and clothed them.
Garments
kuttōneṯ: A feminine noun indicating a coat, a garment, a tunic. It indicates a long undergarment with a collar cut out for one's head (Gen_37:3); the main common garment worn by men or women (2Sa_15:32; Son_5:3). Priests wore a priestly tunic (Exo_28:4; Lev_16:4; Ezr_2:69; Neh_7:70, Neh_7:72). These garments could be of linen or skins (Gen_3:21) and were sometimes embroidered (Exo_28:4, Exo_28:39). They were torn as a sign of grief and mourning (2Sa_15:32). Worn by kings or rulers, they indicated authority (Isa_22:21).
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Re: Man made standards. Who do they think they are
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
Me too. Men need to wear pants and ladies skirts/dresses and they need not to switch ( cross-dress ) them
Cross dressing is a form of bending gender identity. That means men wearing women's clothing and women wearing men's clothing as part of a perversion of sexual identity.
For example....
It would be an abomination for a man to wear a pair of women's pants.
Re: Man made standards. Who do they think they are
Read first page and I'm already worn out---dont have the time or energy to read through this old, tired subject.
Easy answer to the beginning of this thread: huge difference between an employer or judge imposing standards of dress and conduct on the job or courtroom and a preacher saying "thus saith the Lord". The first has to do with professional image or preferred conduct and the other has to do with salvation and eternal destiny.
My soul doesn't hang in the balance if I go barefoot into McDonalds or if I get kicked out of the courtroom for wearing a "Jesus Saves" T-shirt.
I am saved by God's grace through faith. Period.
Have fun though trying to keep the rules---and trying to guilt everyone else to do the same!
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Re: Man made standards. Who do they think they are
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Originally Posted by Sam
...but we're not materialistic at all, are we?
Right.
It reminds me of the JW's. I spoke with some of them in depth and here is what they emphasized in all our chats. They focus on a torture stake instead of the cross. The grave for hell instead of fire. No blood transfusions. They leave a campground cleaner than any other denomination as a group. Printing press floors are so clean you can eat off them.
I asked, "What about righteousness, peace and joy in the Spirit? What about denying flesh and being led by the Spirit? What about states of the heart?" I commented on how they were so outwardly oriented in what they talk about.
From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
And we see more concern and talk about standards of dress than most anything else from some.
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Re: Man made standards. Who do they think they are
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Wheelie! What a gentleman you are!
And, you are correct. The garments that God made in the garden do appear to have been unisex - as were the garments of fig leaves that Adam and Eve are described as making.
We have to read something else into the text to get at 1F2's ideology.
Besides, since we're all delivered from the sin of Adam and Eve, shouldn't we all just go back to our former "garden state" of undress now?
and what is my theology?
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