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Old 06-25-2008, 11:36 AM
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I think that would be a foolish thing for them to do. Like an alcoholic working in a bar. 2 Tim 2:22 FLEE youthful lusts.
It would also be impossible to live together like that and stay above reproach, after having that relationship previously.
I agree with this!
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:41 AM
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I agree with this!
Oh dear this reminds me of a funny story.

Somewhere between here and the north pole my husband and I had an aquaintance named Bob... well Bob was a new convert and a little strange to boot. So one night around midnight he calls our house and tells my husband..."you'll never guess what the devil pulled on me tonight!!!"
So my husband said... "well??" Bob said " I felt the Lord leading me to go driving down by the bars tonight and witness, and you'll never believe what the devil pulled!!! A prostitute jumped right in my car and put the moves on me!!!.. RIGHT IN MY CAR!!!! Can you believe what that devil did?!?!?!"

Oh, how I wish you could all meet Bob.

Sorry for the hijack... carry on!
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:48 AM
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I would deal with it as if it were any other sin i.e. alcohol, drugs, girl/boy relationships, etc. Sin is sin and it is better to flee temptations than to put yourself in the middle of temptation.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:59 AM
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Oh dear this reminds me of a funny story.

Somewhere between here and the north pole my husband and I had an aquaintance named Bob... well Bob was a new convert and a little strange to boot. So one night around midnight he calls our house and tells my husband..."you'll never guess what the devil pulled on me tonight!!!"
So my husband said... "well??" Bob said " I felt the Lord leading me to go driving down by the bars tonight and witness, and you'll never believe what the devil pulled!!! A prostitute jumped right in my car and put the moves on me!!!.. RIGHT IN MY CAR!!!! Can you believe what that devil did?!?!?!"

Oh, how I wish you could all meet Bob.

Sorry for the hijack... carry on!
Oh my bil has a funny one about a new convert testifing about, after years of not getting along with his neighbor-the Lord helped them settle it all by going down to the bar and having a beer together!

He was thanking and praising God for what He has done.

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Old 06-25-2008, 12:21 PM
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Oh my bil has a funny one about a new convert testifing about, after years of not getting along with his neighbor-the Lord helped them settle it all by going down to the bar and having a beer together!

He was thanking and praising God for what He has done.

HA.. that wouldn't quiet a service any!
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:22 PM
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Just so everyone knows this thread should not and will not be about my situation. I do want everyone to know that God is a God that set people free from temptations. Infact with my situation it was VERY minor to most people, but major to me. It has taken my close to 20 yrs to able to talk about this. I feel that it is time for the test to moving into the testimony.

I would appreciate if anyone has a personal question for me or whatever PM me so I can answer anything you want to ask. If anyone reading this is struggling with the temptation or even if it has become an addiction and you want to talk by PM feel free to contact me. Believe me one of my best friends brother died of AIDS that he contracted through a homosexual lifestyle. So I have been through it all. Before my friends brother passed away he testified at church about his choice to be gay and what not. He said that he would rather die of AIDS and go to heaven than for God to heal him and there ever be a chance of turning his back on him. The brother has been dead over 10 yrs. Again if any of you want to ask me questions let me know by PM.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:43 PM
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Even apostolic kids turn gay. How would you approach the subject with a son.
That might have been a rhetorical question, but I will answer...

Not like alot of them that is for sure. Most of them I have known over the year were disowned. That is horrible and against the bible. If it were to happen with a son or even with my daughter I would make sure they knew that I loved them but based upon my personal convictions that I believe they are/were wrong. But that God is the ultimate judge, but I am not going to assume that they would make it. I would pray for and with them, but not in a public setting, like walk them to the altar to cast the gay out of them. At the end of the day my responsiblities #1 is to be the best and proper parent. #2 if I do my job as leader chances are my kids will be fine, but if they aren't it is a choice they would have to make. I am not certain if I would feel comfortable with them living with me depending the age. If my child wanted to be sexually active with their person of the same sex they better not do that in my house because I would ask them to leave. I am a different kinda pentecostal.
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....

Jtull...

I wonder sometimes if folks who go thru this don't somehow gray the lines between parent and child relationships... not bonding with their parents and somehow construing the lines between brotherly love and sin?...

I think that most of the folks I have met who battle with this have had strained relationships with their parents... and it may be in some way a cry for a relationship they never had only crossing the lines of normalcy for sin...

I don't know if that makes sense...
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Jtull...

I wonder sometimes if folks who go thru this don't somehow gray the lines between parent and child relationships... not bonding with their parents and somehow construing the lines between brotherly love and sin?...

I think that most of the folks I have met who battle with this have had strained relationships with their parents... and it may be in some way a cry for a relationship they never had only crossing the lines of normalcy for sin...

I don't know if that makes sense...
Think I know where you are going here. A son did not have a great relationship with his father so he reaches out to another man and falls into an unhealthy relationship with that person. That might be the case. With my friends brother that could not be farther from the truth, but not every case is the same.
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....

As a possible solution to this situation with the family I have thought about having them move away from each other and not talking anymore. Both the men have verbally stated that except for each other they are not attracted to other men, but infact are attracted to women. I guess they would fall under the bisexual tag. After having met these family members I really believe that. I think that the separation from each other will be tough, life long friends, but would be easier in comparison to one or both dying of AIDS or the extreme going to hell.
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