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Old 02-22-2009, 08:15 PM
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Re: Did Adam And Eat Meat ?

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Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Even the animals ate only vegetation as well. That is why in the end time it is going back to the original form in which the Lion will lie down with the Lamb.
How does one jump from the other. The 'promise' was to Adam, not to the animals, as far as "green things" went.

Many animals are just too well designed as meat eaters and for predation to have EVER eaten anything but what they eat now.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:22 AM
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Re: Did Adam And Eat Meat ?

No , Adam and Eve did not eat meat .
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Old 02-23-2009, 08:18 AM
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Re: Did Adam And Eat Meat ?

Here's a test for our literal Scientific Creationists friends and supporters of ICR. It's often stated that before the Fall there wasn't any death or aging. Here's the question:
How is it that Adam would have never aged or died?
(Trust me, this ties into the question because this is an important detail that must be covered.)
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No takers? lol
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No takers? lol
You won't ever get any here. "Apostolics" of this day and age simply clench their eyes tightly shut and play a game of "Just Pretend..."

For some reason they are completely sold on the teachings of Fundamentalist Baptists in this area of thought - but they'll send those same Baptists to hell at the drop of a hat. It makes no sense... but then again, I guess that was your point.
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Here's a test for our literal Scientific Creationists friends and supporters of ICR. It's often stated that before the Fall there wasn't any death or aging. Here's the question:
How is it that Adam would have never aged or died?
(Trust me, this ties into the question because this is an important detail that must be covered.)
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You won't ever get any here.
Then someone has to answer for them! It's only fair. I'd take a stab, but, sadly, my imagination is on the blink, today. I got nothin'.
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Re: Did Adam And Eat Meat ?

The typical answer for those who believe in a literal interpretation is that the earth had a vapor sheild that sheilded it from the Sun's radiation, this, they say, contributed to Adam's immortality and lack of aging. Once man fell this layer began to thin and this vapor canopy actually was a source of water for the flood.

Now...if you want to be a strict biblicist one must find the "biblical" sourse of Adam's immortality. The Scriptures say,
Genesis 3:22-24
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
The implication is that biblically speaking Adam's immortality and agelessness was predicated to his access to the tree of life...not some vapor canopy made up by Creationists to "sound scientific".

Now, if one were to take a strictly LITERAL approach we have to ask... did every animal on earth also have access to this tree of life? If not, we have to assume that they lived and died as they do today. The notion of there being absolutely no animal death prior to the fall is then a thin argument. If animals died and ate other animals before the fall...it's conceivable that Adam too may have eaten a stake or two!

So there ya have it... I've demonstrated that Adam may have indeed eaten meat.
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Re: Did Adam And Eat Meat ?

And sunlight isn't the only thing that ages us.
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Re: Did Adam And Eat Meat ?

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The typical answer for those who believe in a literal interpretation is that the earth had a vapor sheild that sheilded it from the Sun's radiation, this, they say, contributed to Adam's immortality and lack of aging. Once man fell this layer began to thin and this vapor canopy actually was a source of water for the flood.

Now...if you want to be a strict biblicist one must find the "biblical" sourse of Adam's immortality. The Scriptures say,
Genesis 3:22-24
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
The implication is that biblically speaking Adam's immortality and agelessness was predicated to his access to the tree of life...not some vapor canopy made up by Creationists to "sound scientific".

Now, if one were to take a strictly LITERAL approach we have to ask... did every animal on earth also have access to this tree of life? If not, we have to assume that they lived and died as they do today. The notion of there being absolutely no animal death prior to the fall is then a thin argument. If animals died and ate other animals before the fall...it's conceivable that Adam too may have eaten a stake or two!

So there ya have it... I've demonstrated that Adam may have indeed eaten meat.

Yes without access to the tree of life came the loss of immortality.
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Yes without access to the tree of life came the loss of immortality.
Literally?
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