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Old 05-18-2009, 06:58 PM
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Ha! I saw a sentence in the news about China today that I could not ignore. I have suggested the same in the past pertaining to the role custom and culture play in how various groups of people dress and define themseves.
(The important premise being that fashion and meaning change over time).

I have asserted in the past that IF the church tradition began with everyone wearing pants; the rule today would be that women not be allowed to wear dresses because that would be too sexy. It seems that someone in China might likewise agree....

From today's news (article ommited because of content although it can obviously be googled.)

"The park’s manager, Lu Xiaoqing, defended the venture late last week and bemoaned the lack of sexual openness in a country where just three decades ago it was seen as provocative for a woman to have long hair or to wear a skirt."

I am not staying to post; just couldn't leave without commenting!
I'd be interested in another opinion that having long hair was provocative according to Chinese culture historically before the red takeover and indoctrination of the chinese minds
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Re: Shifting shades of provocative attire...

BTW a skirt is not a dress. Im sure 3 decades or much more actually, even here skirts seemed provocative to some
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I'd be interested in another opinion that having long hair was provocative according to Chinese culture historically before the red takeover and indoctrination of the chinese minds
nah, all the women had long hair, but they still wore pants,(according to the hundreds of Chinese martial arts movies I have seen,)


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I'd be interested in another opinion that having long hair was provocative according to Chinese culture historically before the red takeover and indoctrination of the chinese minds
Isn't that why many middle-eastern countries insist that women cover their hair?
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:38 PM
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Isn't that why many middle-eastern countries insist that women cover their hair?
No....even if a woman had short hair they would require she wear a veil

BTW I don't think chinese woman normally wore veils, however in some middle eastern cultures a woman showing her face might be considered provocative
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BTW a skirt is not a dress. Im sure 3 decades or much more actually, even here skirts seemed provocative to some
We just saw Star Trek yesterday, and I am happy to report that they brought back the classic mini-skirt in the early days of Kirk and Spock, as seen on the original series.
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Re: Shifting shades of provocative attire...

Years ago it was considered immodest in parts of the United States for a woman to display an ankle. Later it became acceptable to show an ankle, then a knee, and now a thigh.
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Re: Shifting shades of provocative attire...

Three decades to a Chinese doesn't denote a cultural stance. Even 200 years to a Chinese is recent history. At least this is from the lips of my born-and-raised-in-China friend.

And if you look at any group of people and really note their cultural clothing, they have distinct gender separation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese_clothing
http://ezinearticles.com/?Ancient-Ch...ore&id=1444574
http://apparelhistory.blogr.com/stories/8159724/

Most traditional Chinese costumes would include a robe. So do most Middle Eastern traditional costumes. The main thing to note is that these all cover large portions of the body and, at least to the eye of someone familiar with the culture, consist of distinct differences between men's and women's attire. In America, the traditional women's garment would include a skirt or dress, and the traditional men's garment would include pants, even as far back as most Native American tribes.
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We just saw Star Trek yesterday, and I am happy to report that they brought back the classic mini-skirt in the early days of Kirk and Spock, as seen on the original series.
and green skinned women
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We just saw Star Trek yesterday, and I am happy to report that they brought back the classic mini-skirt in the early days of Kirk and Spock, as seen on the original series.
Oh? I hadn't noticed.



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