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06-23-2009, 02:53 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
Just curious, how liberal does ALC lean? I know Mangun's daughter is the pastor's wife there now...AM isn't liberal, so that makes me curious. I hope this is not an offensive question, I do not mean it as such!
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06-23-2009, 04:42 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
Gracie,
Based on pics posted on the church website I would say pretty liberal for the UPC!!
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06-23-2009, 05:09 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
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Sorry, I don't get the joke. Can you explain it?
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Well, the Potter's House is closer to Arlington than Plano, T.D. Jakes would welcome them. Most on this forum would not consider The Potter's House an option. Never mind, it really wasn't funny.
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06-23-2009, 05:19 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
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Well, the Potter's House is closer to Arlington than Plano, T.D. Jakes would welcome them. Most on this forum would not consider The Potter's House an option. Never mind, it really wasn't funny. 
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I would not consider it - but not for the same reasons as most here wouldn't.
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06-23-2009, 05:21 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
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Gracie,
Based on pics posted on the church website I would say pretty liberal for the UPC!!
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Based on the friend of a friend who attends there--I'd say they're pretty liberal.
Probably on par with Promiseland.
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06-23-2009, 05:25 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
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Well, the Potter's House is closer to Arlington than Plano, T.D. Jakes would welcome them. Most on this forum would not consider The Potter's House an option. Never mind, it really wasn't funny. 
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Why is that?
Judging from the pictures, and from their "What We Believe" statement, this church (ALCplano) can not be a part of the UPCI.
If so, how?
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06-23-2009, 05:32 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
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Why is that?
Judging from the pictures, and from their "What We Believe" statement, this church (ALCplano) can not be a part of the UPCI.
If so, how?
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They're still listed in the directory....
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06-23-2009, 05:35 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
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I would not consider it - but not for the same reasons as most here wouldn't.
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Jakes has built a huge community of believers, and I believe he is doing a commendable job in south Dallas.
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06-23-2009, 05:36 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Why is that?
Judging from the pictures, and from their "What We Believe" statement, this church (ALCplano) can not be a part of the UPCI.
If so, how?
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Maybe because he is too liberal?? For many on AFF, though not for many. Like I said it wasn't funny.
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06-23-2009, 05:36 PM
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Re: Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
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They're still listed in the directory....
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This church's what we believe statement is about as "one-stepper" as you can get, without coming out and using the term.
From their website:
Salvation
We believe that all men have sinned and stand in need of redemption, which is obtained through the new birth by faith in the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Those repenting of sin and being born again become children of God and heirs with Christ.
The Holy Spirit
We believe that the Holy Spirit is active in the world today and that the baptism of the Holy Spirit, with His accompanying gifts, is the privilege of all New Testament believers.
I agree with this, but this isn't how the UPCI presents the Gospel of Christ.
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