Churches can have numbers,but [if] you just have numbers and not true Christians what do you have ? A big social club or something.
I understood what you meant Bro Scott....and, sorry NOW, but it's NOT baloney! Too many churches are just that.......social clubs, with just a hint of Jesus thrown in for good measure so they can call it church. Sad!
Yeah, alot of churches are 'growing' or as I heard one preacher say........"swelling", from infection and disease. That type of growth is certainly not good.
I understood what you meant Bro Scott....and, sorry NOW, but it's NOT baloney! Too many churches are just that.......social clubs, with just a hint of Jesus thrown in for good measure so they can call it church. Sad!
Yeah, alot of churches are 'growing' or as I heard one preacher say........"swelling", from infection and disease. That type of growth is certainly not good.
Ok, so give me an example of a church that fits the description you gave.
LOL! Surely you can think of at least one? Then again, maybe you can't.
You really are just a pot stirrer who loves attention!
I don't have time for such foolishness, thank you.
One of the best laughs I've had. Why is it that people can throw out these blanket accusations that call into question many, many questions, and then always refuse to back it up.
And no, I can't think of one. I was hoping you could, because I want to make a valid point. I just need a percentage of "True Christians" in one of these "mega-seeker-surface churches." Any takers?
I understood what you meant Bro Scott....and, sorry NOW, but it's NOT baloney! Too many churches are just that.......social clubs, with just a hint of Jesus thrown in for good measure so they can call it church. Sad!
Yeah, alot of churches are 'growing' or as I heard one preacher say........"swelling", from infection and disease. That type of growth is certainly not good.
Thank for trying to understand what I'm trying to convey,I'm not trying to condemn or lamblast.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
I understood what you meant Bro Scott....and, sorry NOW, but it's NOT baloney! Too many churches are just that.......social clubs, with just a hint of Jesus thrown in for good measure so they can call it church. Sad!
Yeah, alot of churches are 'growing' or as I heard one preacher say........"swelling", from infection and disease. That type of growth is certainly not good.
Which club should I join? The social-club church with lots of unsaved people, or the sinner-club down at the corner bar?
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Which club should I join? The social-club church with lots of unsaved people, or the sinner-club down at the corner bar?
You put a laughy thing with the question, but what an amazing question.
There was once a hit-piece done by, I believe, Christianity Today, on Willow Creek. They had reporters go the church exits and would ask them bible questions to test their knowledge. (So stupid)
And out came several muslims and practicing Jews. All of them had been attending the church for about 18 months and the magazine just shredded Willow for it.
I read it and thought, "Dang, I would love to have a bunch of Muslims and practicing Jews in my church on Sundays!! How amazing would that be!!"
I think Scott's concerns are valid.
Many today are results driven. We should first ask what Jesus said we should do, results or no results. Secondly, once our heartbeat is right, we can work on ways to "Compel them to come." More than a church set on growth, is a church passionate about the Gospel. For a healthy church, growth is a byproduct.
One of the best laughs I've had. Why is it that people can throw out these blanket accusations that call into question many, many questions, and then always refuse to back it up. 
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