The eunuchs were incapable of "sowing seed". They were trusted by various kings to not copulate with the wives and concubines because of their lack of desire. The analogy was being made, comparing preachers of today who are not willing or have no desire to "sow the seed" by preaching the whole truth, to the eunuchs. The devil has no problem with these men standing before congregations of saints, because he trusts them not to be reproductive by sowing the seed of the word. Eunichs were not allowed into the congregation of Israel in the OT....
I see. Rather crude analogy, don't you think? I prefer to think of someone sowing seed like a farmer in a field, TYVM.
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I see. Rather crude analogy, don't you think? I prefer to think of someone sowing seed like a farmer in a field, TYVM.
That's fine if you prefer one analogy over another. I guess someone could read SOS and say "how crude". I tend to think that scriptural analogies are beautiful, especially since, "doth not nature teach?" ... Both analogies, conception and agriculture, are made in scripture...
That's fine if you prefer one analogy over another. I guess someone could read SOS and say "how crude". I tend to think that scriptural analogies are beautiful, especially sin "... Doth not nature teach?" ... Both analogies, conception and agriculture, are made in scripture...
Was that a scriptural analogy? Where does scripture refer to preachers or prophets sowing seed in the reproductive sense? I've read quite a few scriptures about sowing seed in a field that grow up into a harvest; I don't recall any of the other....
I agree that scripture is beautiful, including Song of Solomon. However, just because something is beautiful in context doesn't mean it can be applied to any topic appropriately. One of the worst sermons I EVER heard was about "making love to Jesus", (@ a nameless conference by a nameless minister). He not only made the comparison between sex and our relationship with God, he actually went through each reproductive body part in detail, and compared its function to how we relate to God. It was graphic, in poor taste, and really just stupid.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
I would have walked to the bathroon then on out without making a scene...I appreciate your wisdom my sister for not putting names...lol...we see it all...I can sit through about anything but sermons about sex are kinda far out...
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The eunuchs were incapable of "sowing seed". They were trusted by various kings to not copulate with the wives and concubines because of their lack of desire. The analogy was being made, comparing preachers of today who are not willing or have no desire to "sow the seed" by preaching the whole truth, to the eunuchs. The devil has no problem with these men standing before congregations of saints, because he trusts them not to be reproductive by sowing the seed of the word. Eunichs were not allowed into the congregation of Israel in the OT....
Given this explanation, I still think it was an unnecessarily graphic illustration that was in poor taste. I also wonder why he thinks these men are "on the website watching"....
The eunuchs were incapable of "sowing seed". They were trusted by various kings to not copulate with the wives and concubines because of their lack of desire. The analogy was being made, comparing preachers of today who are not willing or have no desire to "sow the seed" by preaching the whole truth, to the eunuchs. The devil has no problem with these men standing before congregations of saints, because he trusts them not to be reproductive by sowing the seed of the word. Eunichs were not allowed into the congregation of Israel in the OT....
Did he give any examples? Name any names?
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Why broadcast it if you just want to demonize those watching? Does that make one more right or spiritual to throw deratory statements at the listeners? No, it is raw red meat to the natives!!
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Was that a scriptural analogy? Where does scripture refer to preachers or prophets sowing seed in the reproductive sense? I've read quite a few scriptures about sowing seed in a field that grow up into a harvest; I don't recall any of the other....
I agree that scripture is beautiful, including Song of Solomon. However, just because something is beautiful in context doesn't mean it can be applied to any topic appropriately. One of the worst sermons I EVER heard was about "making love to Jesus", (@ a nameless conference by a nameless minister). He not only made the comparison between sex and our relationship with God, he actually went through each reproductive body part in detail, and compared its function to how we relate to God. It was graphic, in poor taste, and really just stupid.
In the context of the point he was making, the analogy was perfectly scriptural, and his language tempered and appropriate for the audience he was ministering to, and for anyone who would listen to the message. If I said a man who would not preach the word was emasculated, or a eunuch, makes no difference, the language is appropriate, although I could see how some limp wristed effeminate preachers who refuse to proclaim the Word of God would be somewhat put off...
I think Bob Dylan has taken the preaching out of context. It may be that an unfortunate statement slipped by the preacher in question; but for Bob Dylan to then go all over the Internet claiming that the preacher said something which he clearly did not say is just plain wrong.
In fact, Bob Dylan is a liar if he says Nathaniel Urshan really called anyone a "eunich" (sic). It's obviously just Bob Dylan's desire to do away with the preaching of the everlasting Gospel and to tear down the things that our elders have upheld from the beginning that is causing him to say this.
Go back an listen again, and again, and again to the clip, Bob Dylan. Your (sic) a liar if you don't see it my way.
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