The word triunity or its shortened version trinity means three in one.
Some Oneness folks believe the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three offices, manifestations, personas, personalities, or roles of God and these three are all in Jesus. So they refer to God as the triune God.
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Originally Posted by Sam
I thought that simultaneous modalism was a doctrine taught by many that are known as oneness i.e. God exists simultaneously as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Some times we call these
three modes of being
three offices
three roles
three masks
three persons
three personalities
three personas
three kenoomas
but we agree that they are not three Gods
I think I recall someone quoting an old (first half 20th Century, or so) Oneness doctrine, not sure if it was UPCI or something else, that used the word "personalities", but I can't find it.
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I think I recall someone quoting an old (first half 20th Century, or so) Oneness doctrine, not sure if it was UPCI or something else, that used the word "personalities", but I can't find it.
You may mean this that I have posted before:
This is a small article that appeared on page 7 of the December 1948 Pentecostal Herald and was written by Bro. Howard A. Goss who was General Superintendent of the UPC.
GODHEAD
The name of Jesus people teach that there is one true God and this one true God has manifested Himself in the New Testament dispensation especially. as Father, Son and Holy Spirit--not three eternally separate, distinct persons or Gods, but three manifestations of the one true God. We believe that we are the true trinitarians because the word trinity means tri-unity--three in one. The people that hold that there are three eternally separate and distinct persons in the Godhead or deity are tritheists which means three Gods or persons.
Those that believe that Jesus Christ was God manifested in the flesh are the true trinitarians. Paul says in Colossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." 1 John 5:7 says, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Jesus said-"He that hath seen me hath seen the Father--. John 14:9.
The Lord Jesus Christ is Father, Son. and Holy Spirit, so the Lord Jesus Christ is the one true God.
Howard A. Goss.
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This is from pages 2 and 3 of the Manual of the Pentecostal Church Incorporated. I don’t know what year this is from.
GODHEAD
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:” Romans 1:20
He manifested himself in the Old Testament in various ways and under different names, such as God Elohim, God Almighty, El Shaddai and the “I am the I AM,”Jehovah, and especially Jehovah Lord, the redemptive NAME.
In the New Testament this one true God was manifest in the flesh or in His son, Jesus Christ “For when the fullness of time was come, God sent forth His son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law”; “God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them”; “for in Him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily”; “For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fullness dwell”; “and without controversy great is the mystery of Godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
Man is triune spirit, soul, and body. God is triune, a trinity. Three manifestations of one God, not three eternally distinct persons or Gods, as that is tritheism.
Jesus in His humanity, was man; in His deity, was God. His flesh was the Lamb or sacrifice of God. (Heb 10:10-20).
The Son of God is the only hope of the world. The Man,He is, is the mediator between God and man. (1 Tim 2:5)
God is multiple. That is, He has many names, offices, titles, many manifestations, such as God, Son of God, Son of Man, Lord of All, King, Shepherd, Priest, Holy One, Lamb, Alpha and Omega. He is all and in all. Amen
This is a small article that appeared on page 7 of the December 1948 Pentecostal Herald and was written by Bro. Howard A. Goss who was General Superintendent of the UPC.
GODHEAD
The name of Jesus people teach that there is one true God and this one true God has manifested Himself in the New Testament dispensation especially. as Father, Son and Holy Spirit--not three eternally separate, distinct persons or Gods, but three manifestations of the one true God. We believe that we are the true trinitarians because the word trinity means tri-unity--three in one. The people that hold that there are three eternally separate and distinct persons in the Godhead or deity are tritheists which means three Gods or persons.
Those that believe that Jesus Christ was God manifested in the flesh are the true trinitarians. Paul says in Colossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." 1 John 5:7 says, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Jesus said-"He that hath seen me hath seen the Father--. John 14:9.
The Lord Jesus Christ is Father, Son. and Holy Spirit, so the Lord Jesus Christ is the one true God.
Howard A. Goss.
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This is from pages 2 and 3 of the Manual of the Pentecostal Church Incorporated. I don’t know what year this is from.
GODHEAD
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:” Romans 1:20
He manifested himself in the Old Testament in various ways and under different names, such as God Elohim, God Almighty, El Shaddai and the “I am the I AM,”Jehovah, and especially Jehovah Lord, the redemptive NAME.
In the New Testament this one true God was manifest in the flesh or in His son, Jesus Christ “For when the fullness of time was come, God sent forth His son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law”; “God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them”; “for in Him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily”; “For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fullness dwell”; “and without controversy great is the mystery of Godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
Man is triune spirit, soul, and body. God is triune, a trinity. Three manifestations of one God, not three eternally distinct persons or Gods, as that is tritheism.
Jesus in His humanity, was man; in His deity, was God. His flesh was the Lamb or sacrifice of God. (Heb 10:10-20).
The Son of God is the only hope of the world. The Man,He is, is the mediator between God and man. (1 Tim 2:5)
God is multiple. That is, He has many names, offices, titles, many manifestations, such as God, Son of God, Son of Man, Lord of All, King, Shepherd, Priest, Holy One, Lamb, Alpha and Omega. He is all and in all. Amen
Maybe. I don't see "personalities" mentioned there, but it says "we are the true trinitarians". That may be what triggered my recalling of this quote. Dunno.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Maybe. I don't see "personalities" mentioned there, but it says "we are the true trinitarians". That may be what triggered my recalling of this quote. Dunno.
I had a UPC minister tell me many years ago, "I don't believe in three persons but I believe in three personalities." Well, "persons" and/or "personalities" can mean different things to different people and, as far as I know, neither term is used in our KJV in plural form in reference to God (unless you count Job 13:7-10 and Hebrews :1-3).
Maybe. I don't see "personalities" mentioned there, but it says "we are the true trinitarians". That may be what triggered my recalling of this quote. Dunno.
So I guess the big question ,according to this is, are we trinitatian oneness or threeness?
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DAVID A MAN AFTER GOD'S HEART.........
At one time I was a baby, I was a daughter, a young girl, then a
young woman. Later I became a married woman, a wife. Then I
became a mother, later a grandmother, now a Great-Grand-mother.
Through the years I also became a mother in law, a sister in law,
a daughter in law. There was a time I was not a wife, a mother, a grandmother or a
Great-Grandmother. There was a time I was not some of the other
offices. But I now hold many offices. BUT I am still one!
All these offices I have held have been in the person of this
one woman. Not personalities, but offices! The office of a
baby, girl, or young woman, I no longer hold. Those roles
have been fulfilled and are now PAST!
Was there a time God was not a Father, Son or otherwise!
At one time I was a baby, I was a daughter, a young girl, then a
young woman. Later I became a married woman, a wife. Then I
became a mother, later a grandmother, now a Great-Grand-mother.
Through the years I also became a mother in law, a sister in law,
a daughter in law. There was a time I was not a wife, a mother, a grandmother or a
Great-Grandmother. There was a time I was not some of the other
offices. But I now hold many offices. BUT I am still one!
All these offices I have held have been in the person of this
one woman. Not personalities, but offices! The office of a
baby, girl, or young woman, I no longer hold. Those roles
have been fulfilled and are now PAST!
Was there a time God was not a Father, Son or otherwise!
Just asking!
Falla39
Yet, the "mother" you didn't pray to the "grandmother" you, you didn't refer to your other offices as separate entities when talking to other people (No man cometh unto the Father but by me"). Just a couple of examples of differences that make it a bit unclear.
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