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Old 08-27-2011, 10:17 PM
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Can someone summerize the "point" if there was one?
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Can someone summerize the "point" if there was one?
Rings symbolize an allegiance to the trinity.

Or something like that.
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Origins of traditions are very insightful. Check out the reason we call the days of the week and months of the year after pagan gods, and ask yourself why we SPEAK those names. Does this mean we should not use those names? According to Chalfant's logic, we should not use those monthly and daily names, for that is his implication as to why he refuses to wear rings.

Consistency thou art a rare... (ahem) jewel.
This does nothing to allow for the wearing of rings. You skipped the ring issue all together.
I will wake up tomorrow no matter what you call it, it's just life. We will cross into another month soon whether you call it September or something else.

I won't however take a pagan ring and put it on my finger, or ear, or nose, or toe, or anywhere else.

Get out of Egypt man. You are in bondage.
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This does nothing to allow for the wearing of rings. You skipped the ring issue all together.
I will wake up tomorrow no matter what you call it, it's just life. We will cross into another month soon whether you call it September or something else.

I won't however take a pagan ring and put it on my finger, or ear, or nose, or toe, or anywhere else.

Get out of Egypt man. You are in bondage.
Consistency is not in your logic either, I see. If you were consistent, you would not name the names of the days and months since your logic that applies to wearing rings should be applied to NAMING days and months. NAMING something is the same thing as WEARING something else, if both were done in honour of false gods. But do people wear rings to honour false gods? Of course not. Neither do you when you name a month or a day after a false god.

By saying I skipped the issue of rings altogether, you betray your inability to follow the principle. You are in bondage to error and tradition. Consistency would allow you to realize that the refusal to call the NAMES of the false gods is silly, since the INTENTION is not to worship them, as much as your premise that refusing to wear a ring is based upon pagan, origins. Those who cannot follow this reasoning betray their narrow mindedness. Narrow, not narrow-mindedness, is the way.
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Thanks for those posts on rings, kclee4jc!
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where did the wedding ceremony come from? The bible? What if your wedding was pagan?

Birthdays?
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Consistency is not in your logic either, I see. If you were consistent, you would not name the names of the days and months since your logic that applies to wearing rings should be applied to NAMING days and months. NAMING something is the same thing as WEARING something else, if both were done in honour of false gods. But do people wear rings to honour false gods? Of course not. Neither do you when you name a month or a day after a false god.

By saying I skipped the issue of rings altogether, you betray your inability to follow the principle. You are in bondage to error and tradition. Consistency would allow you to realize that the refusal to call the NAMES of the false gods is silly, since the INTENTION is not to worship them, as much as your premise that refusing to wear a ring is based upon pagan, origins. Those who cannot follow this reasoning betray their narrow mindedness. Narrow, not narrow-mindedness, is the way.
We are going in circles here. You are not seeing my point.
Anyhow, we are in this world but not of this world.
If I change my use of the words Monday and Tuesday, etc. Will you then say that I am consistent and that a wedding ring is a sin, or did you just use that as a decoy because you are stumped and don't know how to combat the issue?
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We are going in circles here. You are not seeing my point.
Anyhow, we are in this world but not of this world.
If I change my use of the words Monday and Tuesday, etc. Will you then say that I am consistent and that a wedding ring is a sin, or did you just use that as a decoy because you are stumped and don't know how to combat the issue?
he might say you are consistant but not that wearing a wedding band is a sin
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