Questions and Opinions About Conviction

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by houston

Problem all ovah pentecost. Nobody deals with the real issue.

In some churches you get told what your convictions are going to be, you just gotta make up yo mind how soon.

[NotforSale]

Conviction revolves around one emotional quirk; guilt (feeling wrong about not doing what is right). The Scribes and Pharisees are the perfect example of those who used Conviction to reach a specific level in Faith. Problem was, Conviction turned many “Rights” into “Wrongs”. Humans can follow the slippery slope of any extreme, and this imbalance can lead people to feeling wrong about something that others do with liberty.

Here is an excellent example; wine. Some Religious Organizations feel that wine, with alcohol, is wrong to consume and they take a strong stand against any intake of this drink. That may be fine for a certain group of people, but others may feel that wine in moderation is totally acceptable, and is even allowed using Scripture to prove it is.

What happens, the group against wine will end up condemning the group that drinks wine. Right and Wrong end up in this valley of “Conviction”, where dogmatic and self-righteous ploys are developed because conviction goes haywire. This eventually leads to confusion, and the group who once took this strong stand may actually wind up reneging on a past and supposable “Wrong” (Stay in Religion long enough and you will see this happen).

Here’s where things get real dicey! When the change takes place, some people stand back in awe, claiming that the change is the result of compromise (Right went to Wrong), when in reality, change was the result of Truth. This is a very tough pill to swallow if a person still feels conviction about a particular action or liberty that another group has begun to enjoy.

If you or another person feels wrong about something, be careful! Our own feelings are a huge downfall when it comes to making sound decisions about ourselves and others. Conviction can lead us to hate, kill, and destroy those who think differently than us. Conviction also creates, IMO, the most horrifying problem that any Faith Based Group could imagine; Blindness.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Conviction revolves around one emotional quirk; guilt (feeling wrong about not doing what is right). The Scribes and Pharisees are the perfect example of those who used Conviction to reach a specific level in Faith. Problem was, Conviction turned many “Rights” into “Wrongs”. Humans can follow the slippery slope of any extreme, and this imbalance can lead people to feeling wrong about something that others do with liberty.

Here is an excellent example; wine. Some Religious Organizations feel that wine, with alcohol, is wrong to consume and they take a strong stand against any intake of this drink. That may be fine for a certain group of people, but others may feel that wine in moderation is totally acceptable, and is even allowed using Scripture to prove it is.

What happens, the group against wine will end up condemning the group that drinks wine. Right and Wrong end up in this valley of “Conviction”, where dogmatic and self-righteous ploys are developed because conviction goes haywire. This eventually leads to confusion, and the group who once took this strong stand may actually wind up reneging on a past and supposable “Wrong” (Stay in Religion long enough and you will see this happen).

Here’s where things get real dicey! When the change takes place, some people stand back in awe, claiming that the change is the result of compromise (Right went to Wrong), when in reality, change was the result of Truth. This is a very tough pill to swallow if a person still feels conviction about a particular action or liberty that another group has begun to enjoy.

If you or another person feels wrong about something, be careful! Our own feelings are a huge downfall when it comes to making sound decisions about ourselves and others. Conviction can lead us to hate, kill, and destroy those who think differently than us. Conviction also creates, IMO, the most horrifying problem that any Faith Based Group could imagine; Blindness.

Excellent post!

[The Matt]

Originally Posted by houston

Problem all ovah pentecost. Nobody deals with the real issue.

Do you have such lack of self control that you can't visit youtube w/o clicking on mma vids?

No, I can stay off the mma vids just fine...I'm just using as an example of how the mind works...calm down a bit.

[houston]

Originally Posted by The Matt

No, I can stay off the mma vids just fine...I'm just using as an example of how the mind works...calm down a bit.

That is not how the mind works. If I was going to kick my addiction to porn, I'd cancel my playboy subscription. I would not stop reading magazines.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I believe that. After hearing 'If my convictions aren't your convictions you need to pray until they are'... I got just exactly THAT impression.

yikes?

[The Matt]

Originally Posted by houston

That is not how the mind works. If I was going to kick my addiction to porn, I'd cancel my playboy subscription. I would not stop reading magazines.

I really don't remember my exact thoughts to the T, I'm sure I had some in between thoughts, I'm just saying I went from "I don't need to be watching fighting videos" to "I might as well not get on youtube" I feel like that's my flesh, trying to destroy my conviction. In other words, my mind was saying "You might as well not do youtube if you can't watch your favorite thing." Make more sense?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by The Matt

I really don't remember my exact thoughts to the T, I'm sure I had some in between thoughts, I'm just saying I went from "I don't need to be watching fighting videos" to "I might as well not get on youtube" I feel like that's my flesh, trying to destroy my conviction. In other words, my mind was saying "You might as well not do youtube if you can't watch your favorite thing." Make more sense?

I have had instances where I know that God placed a conviction in me. I have had to make decisions about things whether I felt conviction or not. These I had to base on the principles of Scripture. God has dealt with me about some youtube content. However, I still enjoy some clips, and listening to preaching that is there.

I take time to pray if I am not sure if something is from God or myself. I have found that if I am struggling with something like you have described, it is generally God leading me in places that my flesh is not comfortable going. However, it is always worth it. There is nothing that you will give up that God will not more than make worth it. Eventually you wonder how you ever needed to have what you gave up.

[The Matt]

Originally Posted by Jay

I have had instances where I know that God placed a conviction in me. I have had to make decisions about things whether I felt conviction or not. These I had to base on the principles of Scripture. God has dealt with me about some youtube content. However, I still enjoy some clips, and listening to preaching that is there.

I take time to pray if I am not sure if something is from God or myself. I have found that if I am struggling with something like you have described, it is generally God leading me in places that my flesh is not comfortable going. However, it is always worth it. There is nothing that you will give up that God will not more than make worth it. Eventually you wonder how you ever needed to have what you gave up.

Beautifully put. Thank you. *Has a v8*

[Jay]

Originally Posted by The Matt

*Has a v8*

I do not understand this. Would you be willing to clarify for the ignorant?