On another thread, I said if it means what you say it means, it's wrong. Even in your world, when an unbeliever dies, there is no possible way that day could be considered better than the day he was born. OK, let me back off from that just a bit. It could be considered 'better' in the sense that it begins that man's horrible eternal punishment (not sure you believe that, exactly, but most here do), which is just, and therefore good. In your (most AFFers') view, at least. And it could be said that the day of his birth, since he was an unbeliever, was not good. (Again, in your view.)
Oh, and I'm not a devil.
Oh, my bad, that wasn't this thread?
Ok, and ya, you'll have to leave all that unsupported religious yack, there in the middle; the day of a man's death can not be considered better than the day of his birth if he would not agree with you, and was in torment. Amen. Therefore, you are only left to work out any religious dichotomy that traditions of men has brought you, and trust the verse of Scripture on its face until you do.
We all assume the role of satan whenever our pointy finger comes out, me included, which is just the way it is, in our current state, anyway.
Many of us live with an incredible amount of sadness, hurt, pain, and suffering. I don't think healing will ever come in lashing out at others.
If we are on a battlefield in this life, and that is how I see life more and more, as a battlefield. We are here together, to help each other get through it.
If there is a God, then we need him to help us fight and overcome the things that war against our souls, minds, and bodies.
If there isn't a God, then we still need to carry each other through the heartache and pain.
I believe there is a God. He met me this morning in prayer and brought joy to my soul in the midst of my sorrow.
Timmy I'm hurting for you, but I also feel hurt by you in this thread.
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Are you worried about what 2026 will bring?
I think it will bring flowers. why?
because i'm planting flowers 🌹
Oh, my bad, that wasn't this thread?
Ok, and ya, you'll have to leave all that unsupported religious yack, there in the middle; the day of a man's death can not be considered better than the day of his birth if he would not agree with you, and was in torment. Amen. Therefore, you are only left to work out any religious dichotomy that traditions of men has brought you, and trust the verse of Scripture on its face until you do.
We all assume the role of satan whenever our pointy finger comes out, me included, which is just the way it is, in our current state, anyway.
Uh, no, I do not have to accept that verse on its face value, or in any other way. You may feel obligated, but I don't. To each his own.
And no, we do not all assume the role of satan. Ever. What in the world are you talking about?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Many of us live with an incredible amount of sadness, hurt, pain, and suffering. I don't think healing will ever come in lashing out at others.
If we are on a battlefield in this life, and that is how I see life more and more, as a battlefield. We are here together, to help each other get through it.
If there is a God, then we need him to help us fight and overcome the things that war against our souls, minds, and bodies.
If there isn't a God, then we still need to carry each other through the heartache and pain.
I believe there is a God. He met me this morning in prayer and brought joy to my soul in the midst of my sorrow.
Timmy I'm hurting for you, but I also feel hurt by you in this thread.
I'm not hurting much, now! That was back when I tried to believe what I was told I had to believer. I'm free of that, now. It helped immensely. Not that I recommend it for you or anyone else, necessarily. If believing works for you, that's great. If there are some that are not getting peace as advertised, IMO they should try something else. Yes, I know, some might think it is evil of me to suggest such a thing. I don't care!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I'm not hurting much, now! That was back when I tried to believe what I was told I had to believer. I'm free of that, now. It helped immensely. Not that I recommend it for you or anyone else, necessarily. If believing works for you, that's great. If there are some that are not getting peace as advertised, IMO they should try something else. Yes, I know, some might think it is evil of me to suggest such a thing. I don't care!
Or there may be another answer. I have found that in any arguement both sides tend to stand on the idea that if you don't believe A you must believe B and vice versa... When in actuality there is a whole alphabet
My choice is to find peace in a God that I can love and respect. Not because if I don't he will fry me like a potato chip but because he is good and has my very best interests at heart at all times. Call it whatever you want that is the part I don't care about... I'll try to help you understand it but if you don't see it my way I have to just assume that you are where God wants you to be and that's just OK because I am not God and glad of it
You are right Timmy, peace can come in many packages. Just be sure that you have not had something that you wanted to keep stolen from you by those that made it conditional or impossible.
Or there may be another answer. I have found that in any arguement both sides tend to stand on the idea that if you don't believe A you must believe B and vice versa... When in actuality there is a whole alphabet
My choice is to find peace in a God that I can love and respect. Not because if I don't he will fry me like a potato chip but because he is good and has my very best interests at heart at all times. Call it whatever you want that is the part I don't care about... I'll try to help you understand it but if you don't see it my way I have to just assume that you are where God wants you to be and that's just OK because I am not God and glad of it
You are right Timmy, peace can come in many packages. Just be sure that you have not had something that you wanted to keep stolen from you by those that made it conditional or impossible.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Ah; well, reality is not too concerned with our perceptions, whatever they may be. And the second is self evident.
Reality is closer aligned to our perceptions than to our dogmatically held beliefs, as handed down and proclaimed "true".
The second? About us taking on the role of satan? Your point is self-evident? No. It's not. It's an assertion, with no evidence given. I think I know what "evidence" you may offer, but that is also nothing but assertion. But, I'm willing to be corrected.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Many of us live with an incredible amount of sadness, hurt, pain, and suffering. I don't think healing will ever come in lashing out at others.
If we are on a battlefield in this life, and that is how I see life more and more, as a battlefield. We are here together, to help each other get through it.
If there is a God, then we need him to help us fight and overcome the things that war against our souls, minds, and bodies.
If there isn't a God, then we still need to carry each other through the heartache and pain.
I believe there is a God. He met me this morning in prayer and brought joy to my soul in the midst of my sorrow.
Timmy I'm hurting for you, but I also feel hurt by you in this thread.
I misread this, the first time, I'm sorry.
How are you hurt by me in this thread?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
If one does not witness for Christ he will be lost. Jesus said if anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this sinful and adulterous generation the son of man will be ashamed of him when he comes in the glory of the Father with his holy angels.
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