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Old 04-23-2012, 09:04 AM
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Re: Fact About The End Time Remnant

Just for the record, believing on Jesus Christ as stated in 1 John 3:23 is not just mental belief. It is a full reliance, faith, and trust in the person and work of Jesus Christ.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:05 AM
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Grace is, so they say, granted to those who don't deserve it. Right? Sounds like Mike doesn't think it will be granted, unless you keep the commandments, or else: "No grace for you!" Sounds like. (And, BTW, the Bible sounds like that, too. Look how Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats, e.g.)
oh ok...I see. I was really confused with "schmace"...lol
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:11 AM
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Jesus only indicates the following commands:
1. Be born again. This includes repentance and submission to water baptism. It comes with the promise of the Holy Ghost.
2. We are to love God with all our being and to love others as ourselves.
That sums it up.
I would think that the emboldened falls under "love God"
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:16 AM
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Jesus only indicates the following commands:
1. Be born again. This includes repentance and submission to water baptism. It comes with the promise of the Holy Ghost.

2. We are to love God with all our being and to love others as ourselves.
That sums it up. . . .
They may sum it up, but these are not the only commands Jesus indicated. The others could be considered specifics on how to love God and others, though, granted. Feeding the hungry, taking in strangers, visiting prisoners, forsaking our families (if necessary), etc.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:26 AM
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They may sum it up, but these are not the only commands Jesus indicated. The others could be considered specifics on how to love God and others, though, granted. Feeding the hungry, taking in strangers, visiting prisoners, forsaking our families (if necessary), etc.
1 John 3
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

I think this would apply to what you brought up.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:32 AM
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I think it's easy to misunderstand that Christ came to fulfill the Law, and bring Grace; yet we constantly try to pit the two against each other. I always read the sep of sheep and goats as a reflection of Grace. At the same time, "be perfect," meaning that we are "returning" to perfection, aka the Law? Dietary and all, I thought.

Accept Grace, apply Grace to others, and work on personal conformity with the Law.
Just like we do with our own children?

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1 John 3
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

I think this would apply to what you brought up.
Yep.
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I think it's easy to misunderstand that Christ came to fulfill the Law, and bring Grace; yet we constantly try to pit the two against each other. I always read the sep of sheep and goats as a reflection of Grace. At the same time, "be perfect," meaning that we are "returning" to perfection, aka the Law? Dietary and all, I thought.

Accept Grace, apply Grace to others, and work on personal conformity with the Law.
Just like we do with our own children?
The Law? Dietary and all? Really? You know what The Law said to do about rebellious children, don't you?
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They may sum it up, but these are not the only commands Jesus indicated. The others could be considered specifics on how to love God and others, though, granted. Feeding the hungry, taking in strangers, visiting prisoners, forsaking our families (if necessary), etc.
All of those are acts of love for God and others. The point isn't to make a list of those things... but to walk according to the Spirit in that manner.
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The Law? Dietary and all? Really? You know what The Law said to do about rebellious children, don't you?
Ya, that is where Grace is applied. The Law is for me, to work into; it's what I am, or should be "returning" to of my own free will, imo.
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