Apostolic 101 - Page 2

FlamingZword · #1 05-26-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

We have people here at AFF who want to reach out to all types of people, not excluding homosexuals in the process. Where would Christ's church be without those who are accepting that call to minister to them?

And if this forum wasn't accessible to atheists and agnostics to discuss Bible, where else could they go? Frankly, in my area of the country, I see no Apostolic outreach to the lost. What has the physical church become?

I agree that we should try to reach out to other people, however I am of the opinion that an apostolic Forum should be that an Apostolic Forum for apostolic believers.

I am against allowing atheists, agnostics and even trinitarians being allowed in this forum. This is our apostolic club and it should remain so.

We apostolic need our own little place where we can engage in debate and converstations among ourselves.

we can create a different forum for outreach, but this should be our cozy little place.

Hoovie · #2 05-19-2012, 07:25 PM

Yes indeed! I believe in repentance and conversion through faith in the shed blood of Jesus, the only atonement for sin. I believe the believer must submit to baptism in the name of the one who has called them and saved them.

Cindy · #3 05-19-2012, 07:34 PM

acerrak · #4 05-19-2012, 07:55 PM

I will stand with sam some what, though i believe in baptism, I dont degrade or condem those who have been baptized according to matthew 28:19

Tim Rutledge · #5 05-22-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

I will stand with sam some what, though i believe in baptism, I dont degrade or condem those who have been baptized according to matthew 28:19

Anyone who is baptized in the titles and not in Jesus name is not Apostolic & their sins have not been remitted. It's not their fault in most cases because they are just doing what they have been taught. It's not Gods will that anyone should perish. So no doubt if they our sincere and have repented, someone will expound the Word of the Lord more perfectly to them.

I appreciate everyone's input. We're all on a path and if I'm wrong pray I'll get right. And if your wrong I will pray I can help by prayer and humbly explaining my belief. None of us even come close to having all the answers but Acts 2 and 38 is essential to salvation. Apostolic 101.

Tim Rutledge · #6 05-22-2012, 11:03 PM

& only by pride cometh contention.

(only means only)

Lord forgive me, purge my mind, soul, heart and spirit. I don't want pride to govern my life in anyway.

Above all else, we must be saved.

seekerman · #7 05-19-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Only by repentance then baptism in Jesus name is ones sins covered by the blood of Jesus. & the curse of sin is lifted. Do people on this forum still believe that?

No. Because scripture teaches no such thing.

Tim Rutledge · #8 05-19-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

No. Because scripture teaches no such thing.

Acts 2:38 says that repentance and baptism in Jesus name is FOR the remission of sins. How do you interpret that?

acerrak · #9 05-19-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Acts 2:38 says that repentance and baptism in Jesus name is FOR the remission of sins. How do you interpret that?

in the name of has always ment in the authority of

this doesnt mean that some one has to call that over your baptism. that is just a oral envocation. while i do prefer it, if remission of sins was based on someone stating a line over you as your dunked under water. then the power to remit sin would be dependant on another mans vocal chord and not your faith.

So i like to interpret it, the way ananias told Paul, why do you tarry? Get up be baptized washing away your sin, ----- get this (calling on the name of the Lord)

at pauls baptism he was instructed to call upon the name of the Lord. So i believe and the greek supports it, it is a 1st person calling upon the name of the Lord Jesus and not some one stating it over you as you get lowered into water.

and lets say your right and im wrong, which Line do you use?

In the name of Jesus Christ
In the Name of the Lord Jesus

or what about the one that says they were baptized in the Name of the Lord, and didnt even use the name Jesus.

do we use the greek name Iesous
do we use the Hebrew name Yeshua
do we use the arabic Name Isa

I am all for baptism in Jesus name, i just dont preach that it must be something another man says over you to have your sins remitted.

To be honest i had recieved the Holy Ghost and for all you Op (with evidence of speaking in tounges) way before i was ever baptized in Jesus name.

according to the word I had recieved the promise of God, i was given a Spirit of adoption, I was placed in the Body of belivers, i was sealed unto the day of redemption.

but i was still considered in my sins cause i had not been baptized in Jesus name with some one speaking his name over me at the time. Was i forgiven?

so was i a carnal sinner with the Spirit of God or did God deposit His Spirit in me before i was baptized?

Hoovie · #10 05-19-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

in the name of has always ment in the authority of

this doesnt mean that some one has to call that over your baptism. that is just a oral envocation. while i do prefer it, if remission of sins was based on someone stating a line over you as your dunked under water. then the power to remit sin would be dependant on another mans vocal chord and not your faith.

So i like to interpret it, the way ananias told Paul, why do you tarry? Get up be baptized washing away your sin, ----- get this (calling on the name of the Lord)

at pauls baptism he was instructed to call upon the name of the Lord. So i believe and the greek supports it, it is a 1st person calling upon the name of the Lord Jesus and not some one stating it over you as you get lowered into water.

and lets say your right and im wrong, which Line do you use?

In the name of Jesus Christ
In the Name of the Lord Jesus

or what about the one that says they were baptized in the Name of the Lord, and didnt even use the name Jesus.

do we use the greek name Iesous
do we use the Hebrew name Yeshua
do we use the arabic Name Isa

I am all for baptism in Jesus name, i just dont preach that it must be something another man says over you to have your sins remitted.

To be honest i had recieved the Holy Ghost and for all you Op (with evidence of speaking in tounges) way before i was ever baptized in Jesus name.

according to the word I had recieved the promise of God, i was given a Spirit of adoption, I was placed in the Body of belivers, i was sealed unto the day of redemption.

but i was still considered in my sins cause i had not been baptized in Jesus name with some one speaking his name over me at the time. Was i forgiven?

so was i a carnal sinner with the Spirit of God or did God deposit His Spirit in me before i was baptized?

Agreed on the "authority of", though it has even deeper significance. The best way to show that an event is taking place in the authority of Jesus, is to say so.

It's imperative that the newly converted candidate call on Jesus, but ideally it should be clearly proclaimed to all present that the baptismal ceremony is done in Jesus Name.

Yes, I believe you were forgiven. This is also the position of the UPC AOF.