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10-06-2012, 08:18 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by Dordrecht
If a person is in full time ministry he should get paid.
How else is he going to put food on the table?
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10-06-2012, 08:19 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
( I Timothy 3:3)
Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
( I Timothy 3:8)
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
( Titus 1:7)
Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
( Titus 1:11)
Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
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are you trying to say that pay is filthy lucre?
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10-06-2012, 08:38 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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If a person is in full time ministry he should get paid.
How else is he going to put food on the table?
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Work with his hands...just like Paul did.
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10-06-2012, 08:42 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy
are you trying to say that pay is filthy lucre?
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It is if they say or do certain things from the pulpit for filthy lucre.
The Bible addresses this.
Some pastors put the fear of God into people if they do not pay their tithes, which by the way is preached in some circles that the pastor gets all the tithes...
The NT says nothing about a group of people putting any one man in position of power over other people ...and paying him for it.
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10-06-2012, 08:48 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
It is if they say or do certain things from the pulpit for filthy lucre.
The Bible addresses this.
Some pastors put the fear of God into people if they do not pay their tithes, which by the way is preached in some circles that the pastor gets all the tithes...
The NT says nothing about a group of people putting any one man in position of power over other people ...and paying him for it.
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And some, not all, but some pastors get rich and fat doing it.
I thank God for a thin poor Pastor 
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10-06-2012, 08:52 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
Let's take this one verse:
Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
( I Peter 5:2)
Many young men go into the ministry as a profession expecting to get paid. They expect to get paid feeding the flock of God. I do not think this is what Peter had in mind when he wrote this scripture.
I salute those pastors who are bi-vocational.
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10-06-2012, 08:58 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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And some, not all, but some pastors get rich and fat doing it.
I thank God for a thin poor Pastor |
Heh.
I know of various pastors who bought all sorts of land, lakeside homes, vacations, hunting trips...and one almost had a falling out with a wealthier saint over a house that both wanted to buy. Imagine that...fighting over a house!
Many saints cannot afford to go on a vacation. Some have to ask their pastor's permission if they can go on vacation. 
The love of money is the root of all evil. I believe that.
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10-06-2012, 09:05 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
Work with his hands...just like Paul did.
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Sure...like that will still work these days.....
A full time pastor working on the side, I can just see that!
And you folks on the sideline complaining about his errors.
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10-06-2012, 09:07 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
Heh.
I know of various pastors who bought all sorts of land, lakeside homes, vacations, hunting trips...and one almost had a falling out with a wealthier saint over a house that both wanted to buy. Imagine that...fighting over a house!
Many saints cannot afford to go on a vacation. Some have to ask their pastor's permission if they can go on vacation.
The love of money is the root of all evil. I believe that. |
Sure, there are always some crooks in the crowd.
Just like on this forum.
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10-06-2012, 09:09 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by Dordrecht
Sure...like that will still work these days.....
A full time pastor working on the side, I can just see that!
And you folks on the sideline complaining about his errors.
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That's why an assembly of believers should not set up one man to be a full time paid sheep feeder. 
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