Me, personally, I care not at all about government allowing gay marriage, its not like its all of a sudden become legal in God's eyes, which is what matters. And on top of that the government already have a mountain of abominations to God, that are in no way illegal according to the government. Is adding gay marriage to the list really gonna matter? A little leaven leavens the whole lump, well we already have enough leaven so that lump is pretty high already.
That is a good point J. People are under the notion that if the country amends the law to allow same sex marriages, that Christians allow our government to 'corrupt' God's law. Truth is...the church system turns it's head on many things that God's law has been corrupted already.
See...when we look at marriage in the same context as the state does, (not the church) it doesn't really matter because the state says marriage is simply a business contract between a man and a woman. If the state amends that definition to marriage being a contract between 2 people, regardless of gender, then that is the gist of all the fighting. As it stands, the official state definition of marriage is between a man and a woman, so they will have to redefine that statement. I look for that to happen soon. Once the definition of marriage is redefined, we will see gay marriage to be legal in all states. Doesn't anybody wonder why the extra umph is added in the form of hate crimes? It was proposed after a few rednecks tortured a young homosexual man, then killed him because he was homosexual. These people took it upon themselves to end another person's life not giving a second thought that young man may have turned his life over to Jesus at some point in time. They cut him off and who knows what God might have done for this young man?
I am of the opinion that we each answer for ourselves for we do in life. If we feel it is sin to do a certain lifestyle or habit...then we just don't do it. We obey God.
ILG has a signature saying: You cannot change the people around you but you can change the people you choose to be around.
That's sort of like you can lead a horse to living water, but you cannot make it drink.
Christ will come soon to judge the quick and the dead. What does He ask of us?
To preach the Gospel and by the mercies of God, that we present our bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is our reasonable service.
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I think that the part that is telling is that the man and wife is inferior in this 3-way contract. Even if they divorce, it does not nullify that contract, they only 'amend' that contract that is between the government, a man and his wife.
So...what might happen if the children are raised christian and the parents fall out of favor with the state if the state decides to restrict Christian teachings in the home?
Well, we don't want that to be the case and the answer is scary. On the flip-side, there has to be some accountability for abusive parents.
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Well, we don't want that to be the case and the answer is scary. On the flip-side, there has to be some accountability for abusive parents.
Sure. I agree with that...to an extent. There are people who abuse the system and call in lies if they have a disagreement with their neighbor. It is hard to make that call when a social worker has to come in and determine who is at fault.
My own daughter-in-law was abused, then exploited by the foster care family she lived with. Her biological mother says she is Christian, yet she dropped her daughter off to a mental hospital because she could not deal with her learning disability, then refused to come back and take her home.
She can think, reason, feel with her emotions and she can learn....it just takes her a while to grasp certain parts of the education process, but once she does..she's got it. She scored high on her reading comprehension test...so I know that there is a lot of intelligence there that nobody helped her to develop.
I am talking about what if the state decides to pass laws against bringing up your children in a religious atmosphere...such as christianity as in some countries around the world.
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Sure. I agree with that...to an extent. There are people who abuse the system and call in lies if they have a disagreement with their neighbor. It is hard to make that call when a social worker has to come in and determine who is at fault.
My own daughter-in-law was abused, then exploited by the foster care family she lived with. Her biological mother says she is Christian, yet she dropped her daughter off to a mental hospital because she could not deal with her learning disability, then refused to come back and take her home.
She can think, reason, feel with her emotions and she can learn....it just takes her a while to grasp certain parts of the education process, but once she does..she's got it. She scored high on her reading comprehension test...so I know that there is a lot of intelligence there that nobody helped her to develop.
I am talking about what if the state decides to pass laws against bringing up your children in a religious atmosphere...such as christianity as in some countries around the world.
Yes, there are times I think leaving the kids with the parents is better than getting them into the foster system.....
I don't think the higher-ups are going to do away with "freedom of religion"....I think they will try and establish other forms of control without touching that. If they can just get people to agree to certain things......they can practice any religion they wish, because they will still be a part of the bigger "system" of control...
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Yes, there are times I think leaving the kids with the parents is better than getting them into the foster system.....
I don't think the higher-ups are going to do away with "freedom of religion"....I think they will try and establish other forms of control without touching that. If they can just get people to agree to certain things......they can practice any religion they wish, because they will still be a part of the bigger "system" of control...
Well...Rome did not care about what religion the people worshipped when the ruled the known world. They called the Jews religion "superstition".
You got to admit though that the government has been taking way the free expression of Christianity. Namely, no prayer in school, no 10 Commandments in the Alabama Captial courthouse rotunda, no crosses...Obama had a cross covered up in one of his speeches after his first reelection. A school district in the next county here received a letter from a well-funded organization demanding that they cease and desist having prayer before the football games. The school acquiesced immediately. There are many examples. So I just have to wonder.
I remember my youngest son's 8th grade graduation those many years ago. We had a female black principle who was a believer. She got up on the stage before commencement and prayed a long prayer and ended it in Jesus Name. I was proud of her. Yet, some of the parents, who were christian beliefs were appalled that she bucked the 'no prayer' rule.
I can worship Christ in my car, my home, standing in line getting my car tag, while grocery shopping etc.
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Well...Rome did not care about what religion the people worshipped when the ruled the known world. They called the Jews religion "superstition".
You got to admit though that the government has been taking way the free expression of Christianity. Namely, no prayer in school, no 10 Commandments in the Alabama Captial courthouse rotunda, no crosses...Obama had a cross covered up in one of his speeches after his first reelection. There are many examples. So I just have to wonder.
I can worship Christ in my car, my home, standing in line getting my car tag etc.
Yeah, I think they just want the public arena to be neutral. I could be wrong, but that is how I view it.
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It's an article Timmy. I cannot verify the accuracy of it except perhaps to go to the Circuit Clerks office to actually read the law for myself.
I would think that any citizen born to even unwed mothers are subject to this too. At some point in time the unwed mother (or grandmother or great grandmother) was born to a set of parents who were married?
I would welcome Baron's input, especially anything with verifiable bill numbers.
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It's an article Timmy. I cannot verify the accuracy of it except perhaps to go to the Circuit Clerks office to actually read the law for myself.
I would think that any citizen born to even unwed mothers are subject to this too. At some point in time the unwed mother (or grandmother or great grandmother) was born to a set of parents who were married?
I would welcome Baron's input, especially anything with verifiable bill numbers.
So, descendants all the way down belong to the state. Well, it would surprise me if there aren't a number of unbroken lineages of unlicensed marriages (such as common law) producing fruit -- when were licenses first issued? There may be a whole subpopulation of natural-born noncitizens walking among us!
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