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Old 01-04-2013, 09:17 AM
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God is Sovereign He as God has the right to intervene in the affairs of man. For a child of God all things work TOGETHER for good. It does not say all things are good but eventually the outcome will be for the benefit of the child of God. However Job 9:24 states the world is in the hands of the wicked. When Adam sinned he turned over the dominion of the earth to the Devil and he is the god of this world. When Jesus comes and judges the world then He will rule upon the earth and at the judgment the devil is cast into the lake of fire. But until then the wicked are in control of this earth.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:36 AM
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God is Sovereign He as God has the right to intervene in the affairs of man. For a child of God all things work TOGETHER for good. It does not say all things are good but eventually the outcome will be for the benefit of the child of God. However Job 9:24 states the world is in the hands of the wicked. When Adam sinned he turned over the dominion of the earth to the Devil and he is the god of this world. When Jesus comes and judges the world then He will rule upon the earth and at the judgment the devil is cast into the lake of fire. But until then the wicked are in control of this earth.
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God is Sovereign He as God has the right to intervene in the affairs of man. For a child of God all things work TOGETHER for good. It does not say all things are good but eventually the outcome will be for the benefit of the child of God. However Job 9:24 states the world is in the hands of the wicked. When Adam sinned he turned over the dominion of the earth to the Devil and he is the god of this world. When Jesus comes and judges the world then He will rule upon the earth and at the judgment the devil is cast into the lake of fire. But until then the wicked are in control of this earth.
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God is Sovereign He as God has the right to intervene in the affairs of man. For a child of God all things work TOGETHER for good. It does not say all things are good but eventually the outcome will be for the benefit of the child of God. However Job 9:24 states the world is in the hands of the wicked. When Adam sinned he turned over the dominion of the earth to the Devil and he is the god of this world. When Jesus comes and judges the world then He will rule upon the earth and at the judgment the devil is cast into the lake of fire. But until then the wicked are in control of this earth.
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God is Sovereign He as God has the right to intervene in the affairs of man. For a child of God all things work TOGETHER for good. It does not say all things are good but eventually the outcome will be for the benefit of the child of God. However Job 9:24 states the world is in the hands of the wicked. When Adam sinned he turned over the dominion of the earth to the Devil and he is the god of this world. When Jesus comes and judges the world then He will rule upon the earth and at the judgment the devil is cast into the lake of fire. But until then the wicked are in control of this earth.
Right, Bro Steve,

I am on another Forum, where most believe that everything that happens is in the control of God. Even murder, rape, war, abuse, etc.

That would make God the Author of evil, which we know He is not.

And you are right, ever since Adam and Eve was deceived by Satan, the spirit of this world, run by people full of the 'spirit of this world' belongs to Satan.


Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others
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Every person born since Adam is a child of the devil, until they are born again.

So, yes Tim, this world belongs to the Devil. And we are just Pilgrims and Stargers here, until Jesus takes the Kingdoms back from Satan.
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ever since Adam and Eve was deceived.
Sister Renee, Eve was deceived not Adam. 1 Timothy 2:14
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Sister Renee, Eve was deceived not Adam. 1 Timothy 2:14
That nagging broad... nag nag nag nag nag... any man would have caved to get her to shut up.

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Sister Renee, Eve was deceived not Adam. 1 Timothy 2:14

Right Navy. And i know that, just writing too fast I guess.

Eve was deceived. Adam plainly sinned by being disobedient. He knew what he was doing.
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That would make God the Author of evil, which we know He is not.
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

He created the serpent. He created Satan. Did He not know what they would do, or would be capable of doing? Does Satan do anything without God's permission? (See the book of Job.)

Is God able to stop evil? You will probably say that He will, eventually. Meanwhile, God merely watches rape and murder take place and doesn't stop it -- oh no, He wouldn't do that! We have to have free will! Except when we don't, such as when God (some say) answers prayers of protection.

Now, we humans are able to interfere with other men's free will. We can stop someone from raping or murdering, if we happen to be at the right place at the right time. In fact, it would be evil of me to stand and watch a rape take place, doing nothing to stop it or prevent it if I was able. God does that all the time, but it's not evil for God.

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