A Simple Question - Page 2

houston · #11 08-21-2013, 12:28 PM

JASON.... that... That's... Wow!!

Jason B · #12 08-21-2013, 01:00 PM

I've got 3 threads on AFF that are pretty much representative of what has consumed me lately. This thread, the thread titled "Revival" and the thread titled "preaching". (And the more secular thread about burnout, which has gotten better) I enjoy posting these on AFF as an outlet, since I left the UPC I really don't have a network of people to share these things with. Especially other preachers, pretty much when I'm bothered by something I can pray, talk to my wife, or post on AFF. Thanks for hearing me.

renee819 · #13 08-21-2013, 01:01 PM

.OH DEAR LORD JESUS, I pray that You will raise up men to preach the way that Jason is writing about. Lord, we know that it will bring persecution, but our hearts and spirits is so hungry for truth, that we will just have to let the persecution fall where it may. And Pray for strength to STAND.

YES, God can do it, but we need men and women with enough backbone to bring the truth to a dying world.

I believe that the reason that not many really believes, is

They have seen all of the fake healings on TV.
Where are the real miracles? Real miracles of healing?
Of lives being turned upside down and inside out until they are clean.?
We can't show them the miracles, because the churches have gotten so lax, like Jason said.

And then also, no one wants to take responsibility for ANYTHING that they don't have to. Not even for a healthy lifestyle. If you can go down to the local drug store and get a pill that will fix your pain, why not go down to the local church, don't matter which one and get fixed for heaven. If the preacher, preaches, Once Saved Always Saved, do you think they will read anything that says otherwise?

OH LORD, SEND US, no, the men and women are already here, SOMEHOW, STIRR THEM, EMPOWER THEM, THAT THEY WILL STAND UP WITH THE POWER OF PENTECOST, AND PROCLAIM THE WHOLE TRUTH. AND STAND AGAINST THE POWERS OF HELL THAT HAS BROKEN OUT IN THIS COUNTRY.

Aquila · #14 08-21-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Does Jesus still have the power to save the and deliver from sin? It seems like the gospel is presented as nothing more than salvation from hell, but of no practical use for the sinner

Yes. However, it's how one views this "salvation from sin". Ultimately sanctification leads to Christlikeness, but it is a process. And it is only received in part in this life (due to our yet unregenerated flesh), to be fully realized at glorification.

NotforSale · #15 08-21-2013, 01:45 PM

Folks, the problem with Church today is, Religion obtained via the Bible. Attempting to agree on such a controversial Book is impossible. Over 30,000 Christian Denominations on Earth prove this.

This is an Apostolic Forum, so naturally people will come to this place to find some sense of belonging.

But I hate to pop everyone's bubble; the World of Faith is not AFF or any other "Groups" idea. We try to stuff God into our "Building" and our "Understanding", again, another impossible feat.

When I become overwhelmed by the dilemmas of a million opinions about God, I walk outside into the night and behold the heavens! How, oh how can I, a MAN, conceive the Creator of an endless Universe?

The most arrogant statement a Human can make is when they tell me or others what God said, and what God is thinking, when they don't know either.

Jason B · #16 08-21-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Yes. However, it's how one views this "salvation from sin". Ultimately sanctification leads to Christlikeness, but it is a process. And it is only received in part in this life (due to our yet unregenerated flesh), to be fully realized at glorification.

Chris I think you and I agree about most things regarding the process of sanctification.

Jason B · #17 08-21-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NotforSale

Folks, the problem with Church today is, Religion obtained via the Bible. Attempting to agree on such a controversial Book is impossible. Over 30,000 Christian Denominations on Earth prove this.

This is an Apostolic Forum, so naturally people will come to this place to find some sense of belonging.

But I hate to pop everyone's bubble; the World of Faith is not AFF or any other "Groups" idea. We try to stuff God into our "Building" and our "Understanding", again, another impossible feat.

When I become overwhelmed by the dilemmas of a million opinions about God, I walk outside into the night and behold the heavens! How, oh how can I, a MAN, conceive the Creator of an endless Universe?

The most arrogant statement a Human can make is when they tell me or others what God said, and what God is thinking, when they don't know either.

N4S I feel for you. You've bought into delusion big time. But since you reject the Word of God you're probably not bothered by scriptural warnings like 2 Thesis 2:10-12.

NotforSale · #18 08-21-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

N4S I feel for you. You've bought into delusion big time. But since you reject the Word of God you're probably not bothered by scriptural warnings like 2 Thesis 2:10-12.

JB, no need to feel anything for me. My only delusion is to believe you without solid proof that you are right. I refuse to bow to your inclinations that you somehow have a special connection to God that I and others don't have.

I also didn't say anything about rejecting Scripture, but I am challenging you to prove why you are RIGHT and the 1000's of other Denominations that disagree with you are WRONG. Since you're so certain that you have "Arrived" in understanding the Bible, this ought to be easy!!

We can hurl Scriptures back and forth if you want to. Here's one for you my friend...Luke 9:54-56

Jason B · #19 08-21-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NotforSale

JB, no need to feel anything for me. My only delusion is to believe you without solid proof that you are right. I refuse to bow to your inclinations that you somehow have a special connection to God that I and others don't have.

I also didn't say anything about rejecting Scripture, but I am challenging you to prove why you are RIGHT and the 1000's of other Denominations that disagree with you are WRONG. Since you're so certain that you have "Arrived" in understanding the Bible, this ought to be easy!!

We can hurl Scriptures back and forth if you want to. Here's one for you my friend...Luke 9:54-56

I think your 1)distorting my words, since I never said anything you say that I said
2)I didn't suggest I have a special relationship with God that isn't available to other people, quite contrary, the reason for my frustration is I believe that God can do the exact same thing he has done in my life for many more people, but they are not being told to repent or that it is even possible for God to deliver them

3)I don't care about denominations, all denominations do are divide God's people, one of the reasons I left the UPC is they thought they were the only ones saved. I believe there are saved people who attend UPC, AoG, COGIC, Methodist, Baptist, Church of Christ, Nazarene, Prebyterian churches, etc. I also believe there are a lot of unconverted people who attened churches, and also that there are many denominations that have been over run by theological liberalism and outright apostacy. However, neither here, nor anwhere in my 3,000 plus AFF posts will you find me say I have a special relationship with God others don't have, or people in various Christian denomination cannot have. I'm not some weirdo who thinks I'm one of the few saved or someone special to God, I'm a just someone who believes that God is much more powerful than the church presents Him, and I think its tragic that the gospel isn't preached with the power that is inherit within and

4)I don't say your deceived because you disagree with me, I don't believe I'm the standard of truth, nor the authority. I also believe a lot of people who disagree with me will be saved (for example Trinitarians, Calvinists, preterists) But the Bible does make those claims and you reject them, so therefore in the words of Jesus, you have one who judges you, even His Word. How you stand up, I don't know, that's between you and God, but based on some of the things I've seen you write on here the last couple of years, if I were you, I'd definitely find my way back to God, rather than the mixture of new age secular humanist pseudo universalism you seem to have adopted.

Michael The Disciple · #20 08-21-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NotforSale

Folks, the problem with Church today is, Religion obtained via the Bible. Attempting to agree on such a controversial Book is impossible. Over 30,000 Christian Denominations on Earth prove this.

This is an Apostolic Forum, so naturally people will come to this place to find some sense of belonging.

But I hate to pop everyone's bubble; the World of Faith is not AFF or any other "Groups" idea. We try to stuff God into our "Building" and our "Understanding", again, another impossible feat.

When I become overwhelmed by the dilemmas of a million opinions about God, I walk outside into the night and behold the heavens! How, oh how can I, a MAN, conceive the Creator of an endless Universe?

The most arrogant statement a Human can make is when they tell me or others what God said, and what God is thinking, when they don't know either.

I don't know why you want to come to this forum. The only possible reason I can see is you are an evangelist to destroy the faith of Christians.