Maybe I should have defined what I meant by "real": given by God, i.e. as the Spirit gave the utterance; supernatural (and not demonic); genuine and not fake.
Renee, would this perhaps have changed your answer? IOW, might they be genuine and yet out of order?
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Renee, would this perhaps have changed your answer? IOW, might they be genuine and yet out of order?
Yes, If there had been a choice of "out of order" I really don't think that a person can fake tongues.
Like Pressing-on said, they could be Demonic, or,
"the gifts and callings of God are without repentance" Therefore, if a person backslides, they can still talk in tongues.
We don't know those people's lives, they could even be sincere, but sincerely wrong. That is why we are not to follow signs. But God says, to know them that work among you. YES, you have o judge.
I'm not sure why there is a need to define "real."
This is why:
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Originally Posted by renee819
Yes, If there had been a choice of "out of order" I really don't think that a person can fake tongues.
Like Pressing-on said, they could be Demonic, or,
"the gifts and callings of God are without repentance" Therefore, if a person backslides, they can still talk in tongues.
We don't know those people's lives, they could even be sincere, but sincerely wrong. That is why we are not to follow signs. But God says, to know them that work among you. YES, you have o judge.
Uh. OK, so I should have had more choices. One or the other could have been real and from God, real but demonic, or fake.
So nobody can simply speak in what sounds like tongues, without any influence from God or demons? Is that what you believe?
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I'm not sure why there is a need to define "real."
Actually, that's not a bad protocol for the majority of issues discussed here!
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That is ridiculous. I have heard a woman say ba-na-na when she was speaking in tongues. The A's made the sound of A in the word "ball." I have heard words that sounded like Tylenol and Selma Hayek.
Then there's the love for things Japanese (Honda and Yamaha).
Any person having normal psychology and normal language ability can be coached (by a fervent-enough Pentecostal) to speak in tongues. (And according to one poster, this ability cannot be faked!)
To speak in tongues, "Ya Just Gotta Have The Want-To! "
Not about tongues, but the below links are about a message I now recall preached by the late UPC preacher Alan Oggs. MP3, and a book. But both concerning, "Ya Just Gotta Have the Want-to!"
(You're welcome, teeheehee.)
That is ridiculous. I have heard a woman say ba-na-na when she was speaking in tongues. The A's made the sound of A in the word "ball."
I have heard words that sounded like Tylenol and Selma Hayek.
Then there's the love for things Japanese (Honda and Yamaha).
Houston, And then, did someone give the interpretation? I doubt it.
Yrs. ago, we were taught, when someone during the service speaks in tongues, (that would be Unknown tongues) then we would all bow our head, there was a holy hush over the service, and then someone would interpret. If there was no interpretation, I've heard the preacher say, "Something is wrong here."
Today, in Charismatic churches an even some Pentecostal, where they all talk in tongues at the same time, there could not be an interpretation.
Many are ignorant of what the Bible teaches, because the Pastors no longer teach all of the Truth.
Ignorance is not the same as faking tongues. When I went to a Charismatic church, yrs. ago, I too fell into their ignorance.
I's easy to write something out like that. but an honest person, will not fake tongues. And if someone does, they are a hypocrite. But that does not mean that all tongues are faked. I personally never heard anyone speak in tongues, that I knew that they were faking.
In the end, (and He may be starting now) God will separate the WHEAT from the CHAFF.
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