The true goal of socialists - Page 2

odooley6985 · #11 09-30-2013, 08:08 AM

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We are closer to becoming Brazil than we have ever been before. I wonder what tune you'll be humming in the next few years when the government seizes 60% of your pay right off the top just to pay for Obamacare.

Source?

odooley6985 · #12 09-30-2013, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

So you have not been keeping up with the facts concerning Obamacare and its destructive nature?

Has Massachusetts been destroyed yet?

Please tell me what the destructive nature of Obamacare is? I want direct references from the bill. Not what some media group is telling you. Ill wait.

n david · #13 09-30-2013, 08:25 AM

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The biggest job creators are small businesses with under 10 employees, next is under 20, next is under 30 employees (it goes on from there). These businesses can receive tax credits through the marketplace to help ease the burden of providing health insurance to their employees. Small businesses have historically had the hardest time providing quality coverage to themselves or their employees. only businesses with over 50 full-time employees who don't already provide health benefits to their full-timers will be affected by the "employer mandate". These businesses account for .2% of all firms in America. Most of the top 3% of small businesses polled said that the idea that ObamaCare would affect their job growth or hiring process was an "ObamaCare myth". Its not socialism. Its insurance reform. Romney himself said it wasnt Socialism. I dont like the bill for the sole fact that the Govt is making me purchase something and is using the IRS to tax it. Look at Massachusetts. Did they turn into a Socialist state after Romneycare?

Post your source, please. Unless you're just making up numbers and statistics off the top of your head. The info above is from some source, need to post it. Especially since you've been demanding others post their sources, and not just spout off information.

n david · #14 09-30-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985

Has Massachusetts been destroyed yet?

There's no comparison between a single state healthcare system and a country-wide healthcare system. There may be a few similarities, but the end result will be much different when expanded to the entire country.

odooley6985 · #15 09-30-2013, 09:07 AM

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There's no comparison between a single state healthcare system and a country-wide healthcare system. There may be a few similarities, but the end result will be much different when expanded to the entire country.

of course you tuck tail and run.

n david · #16 09-30-2013, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985

of course you tuck tail and run.

What are you talking about?

n david · #17 09-30-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985

The biggest job creators are small businesses with under 10 employees, next is under 20, next is under 30 employees (it goes on from there). These businesses can receive tax credits through the marketplace to help ease the burden of providing health insurance to their employees. Small businesses have historically had the hardest time providing quality coverage to themselves or their employees. only businesses with over 50 full-time employees who don't already provide health benefits to their full-timers will be affected by the "employer mandate". These businesses account for .2% of all firms in America. Most of the top 3% of small businesses polled said that the idea that ObamaCare would affect their job growth or hiring process was an "ObamaCare myth".

Post your source.

odooley6985 · #18 09-30-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

What are you talking about?

Im talking about you and your response to Mass being ok after Romneycare.

Romneycare had a stricter mandate than Obamacare.

Romneycare makes employers with 11 full time employees provide insurance.

Obamacare is only 50.

Romney had an improvement in unemployment when he left office. So like I said, Mass didnt self destruct into a socialist paradise after Romney care.

Bottom line I am for health insurance reform. I am for controllling costs and making it more affordable. I just hate how the IRS is going to enforce this. Thats the only thing I hate.