Life in the pastor's house

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

No doubt "some duties can be delegated" and then some can't be. One thing I've learned by observation is that when church folks are in the hospital they are not wanting to look up and see a junior wantabe preacher, they want their pastor. Most church folks will TOLERATE a young preacher every now and then preaching/teaching a midweek service, but very much of that and the attendance begins to fall off.

Ever think that this mindset is simply from man made church culture and maybe needs to change?Is maybe the attitude of "Its gotta be the pastor or im gonna get offended" a bit bordering on worship of man? Just because someone is a Man Of God doesnt mean God is gonna show up and straighten them out.We are to be submitted to one another as believers not "Never question me cause if God dont like it He will take care of it"...sorry...just bad theology.Plenty of bad ministers still truckin out there...yes they will be judged one day but that doesnt do anything for the people caught in erroneous teaching now.Scriptures must be continually searched and used as a benchmark in context for what is preached....and Im not saying this with any preacher in mind really so please dont think Im smearing someone.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Ever think that this mindset is simply from man made church culture and maybe needs to change?Is maybe the attitude of "Its gotta be the pastor or im gonna get offended" a bit bordering on worship of man? Just because someone is a Man Of God doesnt mean God is gonna show up and straighten them out.We are to be submitted to one another as believers not "Never question me cause if God dont like it He will take care of it"...sorry...just bad theology.Plenty of bad ministers still truckin out there...yes they will be judged one day but that doesnt do anything for the people caught in erroneous teaching now.Scriptures must be continually searched and used as a benchmark in context for what is preached....and Im not saying this with any preacher in mind really so please dont think Im smearing someone.

Dear Lord where did all of that come from?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Being on call is hard work...sitting around watching TV..never knowing when you'll get the call...

Yeah you joke about this but wait till you gotta decide to sleep...eat or use the restroom knowing you wont have time for all three and maybe not even finish with one lol

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Dear Lord where did all of that come from?

Reaction to bad corndogs from Sonic? *shrugs innocent look*

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I have some problems with the dear pastor's wife's observations, but, I'll just keep my opinions to myself.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

There is no Biblical Salary for the New Covenant Minister.

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Awww come on, tell us your thoughts.

I second MTD's response, for one. I can't find "salary for pastors" teaching anywhere in the NT. Giving yes, honoring yes, respecting yes... but a salary for the pastor or man of God, no.

[Michael The Disciple]

Could you imagine Peter, Paul, and John negotiating a salary with the Churches? And since they were apostles, having more marketable skills, they would have to have had more than the local Pastors.

[Michael The Disciple]

Pentecostals usually like the book of Acts. Lets try this.

I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20:33-35

Paul is speaking to the elders/pastors of the Church at Ephesus. Would have been a great time to exhort the Elders about making sure the people pay their tithes wouldn't it?

Instead he tells them to work with their own hands. These were REAL New Covenant ministers.

[jediwill83]

"Lets see...one for you one for me....one for you three for me..."

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Pentecostals usually like the book of Acts. Lets try this.

I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20:33-35

Paul is speaking to the elders/pastors of the Church at Ephesus. Would have been a great time to exhort the Elders about making sure the people pay their tithes wouldn't it?

Instead he tells them to work with their own hands. These were REAL New Covenant ministers.

Well the book of Acts doesn't really go all that far to Pentecostals I guess.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Well the book of Acts doesn't really go all that far to Pentecostals I guess.

It's called selectivity... or in simpler terms - picking and choosing ....