Me thinks the poll question is tricky.......if you mean do I believe the Bible contains all the necessary "moral code" that I need to live by....the answer is yes.
If you are asking does one need more than the Bible to possess morality....the answer is YES! I can have the Bible memorized and tattooed on my eyelids (that would be rather interesting/painful I would think) but but that makes me no more moral than standing in the garage makes me a car.
I like how Bishop H put it so well. You could sit and read the Bible every day all day long, but without the SPIRIT of the Lord to illuminate your understanding, it will be just a good book.
Me thinks the poll question is tricky.......if you mean do I believe the Bible contains all the necessary "moral code" that I need to live by....the answer is yes.
If you are asking does one need more than the Bible to possess morality....the answer is YES! I can have the Bible memorized and tattooed on my eyelids (that would be rather interesting/painful I would think) but but that makes me no more moral than standing in the garage makes me a car.
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
I like how Bishop H put it so well. You could sit and read the Bible every day all day long, but without the SPIRIT of the Lord to illuminate your understanding, it will be just a good book.
Does he have to be a pastor to be considered a man of God?
Sean,
With all due respect,
I think if you know the word well enough you can answer that question. I also think you have an opinion. I’m sure we are all about to read it.
Your answer can be found in Eph 4:11-13
If the 5fold ministry is not actively in your life your morality is based on how you perceive the word, instead of the mysteries of God being delivered unto you.
Sincerely,
J.A. Perez
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I think if you know the word well enough you can answer that question. I also think you have an opinion. I’m sure we are all about to read it.
Your answer can be found in Eph 4:11-13
If the 5fold ministry is not actively in your life your morality is based on how you perceive the word, instead of the mysteries of God being delivered unto you.
Sincerely,
J.A. Perez
Brother, I have been in Apostolic/Pentecost for 35plus years.
I kinda gave up propping up a manna God and became one myself. I never found one that taught perfect truth, so I had to be MY OWN man of God to keep from being led astray or parroting the administrations' false teachings.
I think that is the intention of the Holy Ghost for mankind. (when the man gets out of the way and Jesus becomes our Man of God).
Now that I am a Man of God(for myself), I train others to put Jesus, alone as their priest or Man of God. This makes my role as a servant/ teacher and spiritual equal to the new believer. I spend my efforts making THEM into saints or men of God that are dependent on Jesus ONLY, not me.
The "MannaGod" concept that we have been taught, such as the mediatory role between man and God is derived from Old Testament stories that are not relevant to the role of the N.T. believer today. Case in point....In the Old Testament, the "folks" had priests to go to God for them, but in the N.T., we ALL are priests because our bodies are the temples when we receive the Spirit.
Therefore, every believer should be trained in their role as priests unto their God, not to serve an O.T. priest type on earth(aka pastor)
Please excuse me for interupting, but might I add.
You also need a Man of God (a pastor) to show you. That's in the bible.
Where exactly in the Bible does it say you need a "man of God" to show you?
You mentioned Eph. 4:11-13. I find nowhere in that scripture where it says a "man of God" must show you. Instead we find a list of five different types of servant ministries that are given.
Eph. 4:11-13
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
The five fold ministry was given to 1) perfect the saints; 2) for the work of the ministry, and 3) to edify the body of Christ. The outcome of this ministry would be to bring all into the unity of the faith, knowledge of the son of God, and unto a perfect man in Christ.
A servant ministry, such as those listed in the 5-fold ministry in the NT church were not rulers, or lords, or kings, or dictators over God's people, or else they would be contradicting Jesus words in Mark 10:42-45
"Mark 10:42-45
But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest shall be servant of all. For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many."
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