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Old 09-19-2016, 07:15 PM
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Re: purification after giving birth

This is a great topic, GS. Many women are offended today and don't like the word submission, and it all goes back to the problem that started in the Garden.

I can't think of any plausible medical reason why the Lord would choose to have a woman wait 80 days after having a female child, and only 40 days for a male child... but who knows, maybe someday science will come up with a very plausible and incredible explanation?

Many such things that we see that God had the Israelites do had a good reason behind it, even if we are not by law required to do those things any longer.

Submission will always remain a hot issue to those who have not learned the beauty and joy and rest that come with submission.

I am thankful that I have learned that true peace and joy in a home come when I am not trying to undermine my husband's leading, but when we work together, and I am grateful and willing to follow his godly leadership. It is a beautiful thing when you understand it can work just as the allegory of Christ and the church.

Now I don't believe that a woman has to wear a skirt and not cut her hair, as you do, but I respect your position on that because I know it is the culture you are in.

Being a part of that culture for a big part of my life, I have known far too many women who relied on their outward appearance, and never tended their inward and who fit the description you speak of (no pants, no cut hair etc.). And I have known far more women who may trim their hair and wear a pantsuit, but modesty is high on their priority list and they would never wear or do anything to bring shame or undue attention to themselves.

True modesty begins in the heart, and it cannot be replicated any other way.

I know my post covers a wide range of topics here, but just my 0.02 cents worth
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Old 09-20-2016, 06:29 AM
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Re: purification after giving birth

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This is a great topic, GS. Many women are offended today and don't like the word submission, and it all goes back to the problem that started in the Garden.

I can't think of any plausible medical reason why the Lord would choose to have a woman wait 80 days after having a female child, and only 40 days for a male child... but who knows, maybe someday science will come up with a very plausible and incredible explanation?

Many such things that we see that God had the Israelites do had a good reason behind it, even if we are not by law required to do those things any longer.

Submission will always remain a hot issue to those who have not learned the beauty and joy and rest that come with submission.

I am thankful that I have learned that true peace and joy in a home come when I am not trying to undermine my husband's leading, but when we work together, and I am grateful and willing to follow his godly leadership. It is a beautiful thing when you understand it can work just as the allegory of Christ and the church.

Now I don't believe that a woman has to wear a skirt and not cut her hair, as you do, but I respect your position on that because I know it is the culture you are in.

Being a part of that culture for a big part of my life, I have known far too many women who relied on their outward appearance, and never tended their inward and who fit the description you speak of (no pants, no cut hair etc.). And I have known far more women who may trim their hair and wear a pantsuit, but modesty is high on their priority list and they would never wear or do anything to bring shame or undue attention to themselves.

True modesty begins in the heart, and it cannot be replicated any other way.

I know my post covers a wide range of topics here, but just my 0.02 cents worth
There is a scientific and medical explanation. Take a few minutes and research. Has nothing to do with submission. Geeeez where do yall come up with this stuff.
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Old 09-20-2016, 06:56 AM
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This is a great topic, GS. Many women are offended today and don't like the word submission, and it all goes back to the problem that started in the Garden.

I can't think of any plausible medical reason why the Lord would choose to have a woman wait 80 days after having a female child, and only 40 days for a male child... but who knows, maybe someday science will come up with a very plausible and incredible explanation?

Many such things that we see that God had the Israelites do had a good reason behind it, even if we are not by law required to do those things any longer.

Submission will always remain a hot issue to those who have not learned the beauty and joy and rest that come with submission.

I am thankful that I have learned that true peace and joy in a home come when I am not trying to undermine my husband's leading, but when we work together, and I am grateful and willing to follow his godly leadership. It is a beautiful thing when you understand it can work just as the allegory of Christ and the church.

Now I don't believe that a woman has to wear a skirt and not cut her hair, as you do, but I respect your position on that because I know it is the culture you are in.

Being a part of that culture for a big part of my life, I have known far too many women who relied on their outward appearance, and never tended their inward and who fit the description you speak of (no pants, no cut hair etc.). And I have known far more women who may trim their hair and wear a pantsuit, but modesty is high on their priority list and they would never wear or do anything to bring shame or undue attention to themselves.

True modesty begins in the heart, and it cannot be replicated any other way.

I know my post covers a wide range of topics here, but just my 0.02 cents worth
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There is a scientific and medical explanation. Take a few minutes and research. Has nothing to do with submission. Geeeez where do yall come up with this stuff.
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Well first define ''purification'' in this context.
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:37 AM
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Well first define ''purification'' in this context.
Beats me, I didn't start the thread. You made it seem like it was pretty straightforward, I just asked you to clarify.
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Well first define ''purification'' in this context.
Purification in this instance is the amount of time given for her to be set apart to be ceremonially clean. The flow of blood after giving birth was part of that process, but of coarse it doesn't last 80 days after which is described for a daughter born. As far as I know the natural process for a woman's body does not differ for a having a male child or a female child. There must be a principle behind the differences of time prescribed for the purification process.

If there is something biological for this difference I am interested to know.
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Purification in this instance is the amount of time given for her to be set apart to be ceremonially clean. The flow of blood after giving birth was part of that process, but of coarse it doesn't last 80 days after which is described for a daughter born. As far as I know the natural process for a woman's body does not differ for a having a male child or a female child. There must be a principle behind the differences of time prescribed for the purification process.

If there is something biological for this difference I am interested to know.
I do not have time to elaborate. The old folks say a daughter takes twice as much from the mother than a son. Some consider this an old wives tale. Take some time and research.

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Old 09-20-2016, 02:26 PM
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Re: purification after giving birth

In this context of scripture the purification period and the offering had to be done before a woman could have sex again. Its not something we would normally practice today. However I believe its still a Jewish tradition. Making an issue out of these would be like asking all the males in your church if they are circumcised or not. Then to try to relate it to women not being submissive is kinda far fetched.
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All in the bible is something God wants us to read. We need to learn why.
Yes. However some of the Bible is just history. I have read where some have tried to make a big deal out of the exact measurements of the Ark. No big mystery here. Just build a boat big enough to float all them dang animals. As far as the topic goes my Native American ancestors have always said it takes a womans body more time to completely recover from having a daughter than a son. So I believe this 40 day and 80 day time frame is only for the natural time a woman needs before becoming pregnant again.

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