Planet X and the tie in with Rev 12

[Amanah]

"The name Lucifer (Is 14:12) is a Latin translation of the Hebrew word Hele, meaning "shining one" Lucifer refers to the Day Star, Venus.

The planet Venus was an important subject for ancient mythology. It is bright when it rises, but, when the sun comes up, Venus becomes invisible like any other star. The prophet mocks the king of Babylon, calling him Lucifer (Is 14:12), a translation of the Hebrew word for the Day Star Venus. The king was trying to rival God, like Venus tired to rival the sun, and the prophet rebuked him in these terms. "(Page 866)

The Chronological Study Bible
Copyright 2008 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


The virgin-goddess "Queen of Heaven" is prevalent in the ancient world for the reason that she is astrological or astrotheological, symbolizing the moon, the earth, Venus, Virgo and the dawn. http://www.truthbeknown.com/mary.html

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

The story of the woman and the dragon is symbolic.

When we read of the birth of the Christ we only see the stories in Matthew and Luke who record the story of the incarnation in a total physical setting. ie the manger, the animals, and etc. What we see from those two Gospels is the physical picture of the birth of the Messiah.

But the Gospel of John does not record the story instead he starts out with Spirit.

But John does tell the story in Rev 12 but he tells the story from a spiritual view as opposed to Matts and Lukes physical.

Rev 12 is the story of what the birth of Christ looked like in the spiritual realm.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

This is Israel.

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

The promised Messiah....

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

This is satan, the demonic world, and them working through the political systems of the day to destroy the Messiah. We see this played out in the physical in Matthew and Luke.

Mat 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men.
Mat 2:17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,
Mat 2:18 In Ramah was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


This is Jesus, fulfilling Isaiah.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

We understand that Matthew wrote to the Jews, Mark wrote to the Romans, Luke wrote to the Greeks, but John wrote to the Church. John's writings are moreso spiritual in aim, this includes Revelation.

Amen. Good points. And Rev 12's enthronement of Jesus is the fulfillment of the greatest Old Covenant Prophecy of all.

Psa 110:1-2 KJV....A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. ..(2)....The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

The woman and manchild are fulfilled with Jesus born in Israel and ascended to the throne.

Eph 1:20-22 KJV....Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, ..(21)....Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: ..(22)....And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

Mar 16:19 KJV....So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

[Evang.Benincasa]

What about planet X?

[Amanah]

Planet X is a term used to describe hypothesized planets, orbiting the Sun. Or the conspiracy version of the planet behind the sun. Opposite to this realm (Which is the true answer and fact; and the true answer to where it lays. There is 15 planet X's in your solar system alone. etc etc).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_X_(disambiguation)

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What about planet X?

They keep it in a box at Groom Lake.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

They keep it in a box at Groom Lake.

Is it right next to the grays?

[Evang.Benincasa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation_12_Sign

This must be pretty big.

It has its own WIKI page.

[Evang.Benincasa]

William Tapley the Third Eagle came up with this stuff?

Seriously?

[Evang.Benincasa]

[Esaias]

We have a program on our PC called Stellarium. It shows the sky, stars, planets, etc - like ALL of it - from anywhere in the world, any day, any time, down to the second or smaller. And it plays, forward and reverse, at various speeds, so you can watch the stars etc move as they do.

We looked at that date and time. The people pushing this nonsense don't know astronomy. Virgo will be crowned with 15 "stars", if you can call it crowned (not really). Jupiter does not come out from between her feet, it's off to the side/behind Virgo. Virgo is not clothed with the sun, the sun is slightly outside Virgo.

This is nothing but crackpot astrology with a pseudo christian veneer. It wouldn't even pass for genuine astrology.

Verdict? FAIL.