The Mother Harlot

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Wasn't she married to the King of the universe at one time? Wouldn't that make her a ruler also?

If it is Jerusalem remember what is said of her in Revelation 18:7: How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Isreal NEVER has been a world power. The Mother of Harlots has been a world power. Isreal NEVER ruled over the nations NEVER!
She was conquered by Babylon and Assyria then controlled by the Medes & Persians then by the Grecian empire them by Rome. And can only exist today by our help. This theory that Jerusalem is the Mother of Harlots in Rev. 17 is absurd. WHO are the harlots pray tell????????????????
In chapter 18 she is the zenith of commerce????????????????

[Steve Epley]

I ask you these questions:
Did the kings of the earth commit fornication with Jerusalem or Rome?
Are the inhabitants of the earth drunk on thee wine of Jerusalem or Rome?
Is Jerusalem or Rome known as the scarlet color beast?
Is golden cup filled with abominations Jerusalem or Rome?
Is Jerusalem or Rome known for her purple & scarlet and jewels?
Who has the names of blasphemy Jerusalem or Rome?
MYSTERY BABYLON the GREAT which city mirrors Babylon Jerusalem or Rome?
Who is the Mother of Harlots Jerusalem or Rome?
Who martyred the saints through the ages NT times Jerusalem or Rome remember Jersualem was destroyed in 70 AD?
Who has 7 head & ten horns Jerusalem or Rome?
Who sets on the 7 mountains Jersualem or Rome?
Who was the great city who REIGNS over the kings of the earth Jerusalem or Rome?
Someone would have to have a very vivid imagination to make this Jerusalem but I am not discouraged I am sure there are plenty imaginations here.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

When did Jerusalem rule over the nations of the world?????????????????

When you believe the false teaching of Preterism, you can twist scriptures any old kind of way to believe this old heresy that pops its ugly head up from time to time after losing all credibility among scholars. It is like a bad weed once cut down, t just keeps on sprouting back up again and again. In the last few years, once again it is sprouting up.

The truth is, the Mother of Harlots have absolutely nothing to with Jerusalem, who had already been rejected by Jesus before his death. The Harlot is the backslidden Apostolic church that eventually fell into spiritual fornication by adulterating the Word of God. Trinity is the number one and oldest product of just such harlotry or whoredom.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

When you believe the false teaching of Preterism, you can twist scriptures any old kind of way to believe this old heresy that pops its ugly head up from time to time after losing all credibility among scholars. It is like a bad weed once cut down, t just keeps on sprouting back up again and again. In the last few years, once again it is sprouting up.

The truth is, the Mother of Harlots have absolutely nothing to with Jerusalem, who had already been rejected by Jesus before his death. The Harlot is the backslidden Apostolic church that eventually fell into spiritual fornication by adulterating the Word of God. Trinity is the number one and oldest product of just such harlotry or whoredom.

Can you please demonstrate where I have twisted the scriptures concerning the mother of harlots & babylon the great?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Rico

The RCC can trace its roots all the way back to Peter, D4T, so I would say the Harlot could most certainly be the RCC.

Are they true in their claim that they can trace their roots back to Peter?

Peter was never in Rome.
Peter was married.
Peter was not the first Pope.

They are wrong in their assertion that they can trace their roots back to Peter. The one they trace their roots back to is no Simon Peter... but Simon Pater...

He is none other than Simon the Sorcerer who the apostles rebuked for trying to buy the power of the Holy Ghost.

The RCC claims many things that are not true.

But... all of that aside... don't forget what Jesus said....

Luk 13:33 Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the [day] following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

Why?

Because the harlot is guilty of the blood of the prophets.

[Esther]

A lot of interesting post here.

Something to think on.

[Felicity]

I was always taught that the Mother Harlot is the RCC.

[Sister Alvear]

Could come out of her my people mean come out of a system?

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

2Cr 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,
2Cr 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

I was just reading and this thought came to me. Is the Mother Harlot really the Roman Catholic Church? Could it be that the true Mother Harlot is the setting up of any carnal minded system in place of God's Spiritual system?

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Could come out of her my people mean come out of a system?

Sis Alvear,

That was my initial thought. The world (carnal) system is what we are to "come out of and be separated from". The Aposotlic Church is the only "system" that bows to God. ALL other religions and non-religions bow to the system of this world.

[Sam]

It is my understanding that what we call Babylon had its beginning in Genesis 10:8-12. Here we read that Nimrod, whose name means "rebel" began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter "before" the Lord. In the Greek Old Testament (used by the writers of our New Testament) the word "before" is enantion (Strongs no. 1726) which can mean before, in the presence of, opposite to, against, contrary. It is the base word used in enantiomai which means to oppose, set oneself against, contradict, withstand. So Nimrod was in opposition to YHWH, he was an "anti-YHWH" who hunted not just animals but also the souls of men. The beginning of his kingdom was Bavel or Babel. He also built Nineveh in Assyria. His influence was further spread when the languages were confounded at the tower of Babel and those religious teachings of his were carried throughout the world. Assyria and then Babylon conquered Israel and then Judah and carried their people away. When they returned to the land they brought many religious practices and ideas with them. But, way before that, it was a constant struggle for the hearts of the sons of Jacob between YHWH, the one true God, and Baal in his different forms and names. Babylon is more than an earthly kingom, it is also a spiritual kingdom with great influence.

Just as the influence of Nimrod and the religion of Baal has made inroads in the Jewish religion, so has it been part of "Christianity" in its public forms. Some forms of tritheism can be found there. So can the idea of a priestly group or clergy vs. laity, and other ideas such as use of statues and praying to dead saints, transubstantiation, baptismal regeneration, mother and child worship, holy water, etc.

We all need to be careful that we are not influenced by "Babylon" and its ideas and practices.