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09-09-2021, 10:11 AM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
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09-09-2021, 03:29 PM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
Persuasive viewpoints of over 1,700 architects and engineers who believe the unsettling theory that scientific forensic evidence points to explosive controlled demolition of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on September 11, 2001.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KCoEvzYMd7O2/
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09-09-2021, 11:31 PM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
The towers came down, including building 7 in total free fall. To free fall, it had no obstruction on its collapse. Two planes alone didn't bring down three buildings which collapsed in total freefall
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KCoEvzYMd7O2/
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09-10-2021, 09:49 AM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
An overpass is constructed like a 110 stories sky scraper?
When this overpass burned down, did they take all the debris and remove them. Sell them off to the lowest bidder, so the material could not be inspected?
We are 20 years after this tragedy. The families of those who died still won't accept stories about fuel tankers burning down troll bridges. I grew up with the Twin Towers in Manhattan. I had family members who worked on and worked in the buildings prior to the attacks. We are now living in a time where we are totally sure that this country is circling the drain. Where a United States President has just threatened his people that “We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin,” Biden said Thursday. “And your refusal has cost all of us.” The clock is ticking, and three more years with Biden and Kamala? Listen I don't believe for one minute that things would be different if Trump was president, Ronald Regan, or George Washington hugging Trump. The die is cast, we are the ones who are caught in the crossfire. The only thing we can do is pray that who are is trying to kill and control us is exposed by God.
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09-11-2021, 07:28 PM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
20 years later and we still don't have the truth.
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09-11-2021, 09:36 PM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
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09-18-2021, 02:31 AM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
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An overpass is constructed like a 110 stories sky scraper?
When this overpass burned down, did they take all the debris and remove them. Sell them off to the lowest bidder, so the material could not be inspected?
We are 20 years after this tragedy. The families of those who died still won't accept stories about fuel tankers burning down troll bridges. I grew up with the Twin Towers in Manhattan. I had family members who worked on and worked in the buildings prior to the attacks. We are now living in a time where we are totally sure that this country is circling the drain. Where a United States President has just threatened his people that “We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin,” Biden said Thursday. “And your refusal has cost all of us.” The clock is ticking, and three more years with Biden and Kamala? Listen I don't believe for one minute that things would be different if Trump was president, Ronald Regan, or George Washington hugging Trump. The die is cast, we are the ones who are caught in the crossfire. The only thing we can do is pray that who are is trying to kill and control us is exposed by God.
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The fire heated the metal enough for it to collapse.
A highrise has many times more weight pushing down on the fire weakened steel.
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09-18-2021, 03:57 AM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
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The fire heated the metal enough for it to collapse.
A highrise has many times more weight pushing down on the fire weakened steel.
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I’m not one for conspiracy theories, I can’t stand them anymore than the next person.
Yet, one has to wonder if those attacks on 9/11 was carried out by hijackers with box cutters under the mastermind of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed?
America is a corrupt country and has been for many years, maybe since the inception, (that may be for another time and place to discuss).
The Twin Towers were constructed of a steel frame that was able to withstand the winds at the height of 1368, and 1362 feet. The frame also went 70 feet below the surface and was built upon solid bedrock. Just to bring this to our understanding, those towers employed 50,000 people inside the building! Over 150,000 people used the twin tower subways EVERY day!
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The fire heated the metal enough for it to collapse.
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I’m not trying to nitpick one word yet it’s important to understand it was not metal, it was steel. Steel will not begin to melt until 2500-2750 degrees Fahrenheit. When the planes hit the building and burst into flames (Jet Fuel), the temperature would only be around 1500 degrees fahrenheit, not anywhere close enough to begin the melting process. Eyewitness accounts said as they were running down the stairs they were hearing bombs going off at an even timeframe, as if it were systematically. The NYFD also agreed with those reports.
The first plane made impact at level 93-99 of WTC1 and the second plane made impact at level 75-83 on WTC2. In other words, WTC1 impact was “so great” that it total shattered floors from 92 all the way to the ground and 70 feet below?!? The same with WTC2 from 74th floor to ground, and then 70 feet below?!? If that doesn’t make your head scratch then maybe this will, all that destruction in 1 hour and 42 minutes!
There is more that I or others can write but search it out for your self.
Just understand that this country is not a godly country, never was, and never will be. There “GOD”, is not the GOD that we serve, for the god they serve is Gold, Oil, and Drugs. There are people in this country that are Godly, that serve and worship the one to true God.
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09-18-2021, 06:28 AM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
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The Twin Towers were constructed of a steel frame that was able to withstand the winds at the height of 1368, and 1362 feet. The frame also went 70 feet below the surface and was built upon solid bedrock. Just to bring this to our understanding, those towers employed 50,000 people inside the building! Over 150,000 people used the twin tower subways EVERY day!
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I get that you're trying to show how sturdy the building was, but that doesn't matter if the internal structure is compromised as I address below.
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I’m not trying to nitpick one word yet it’s important to understand it was not metal, it was steel.
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Last I checked, steel was a metal.
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Steel will not begin to melt until 2500-2750 degrees Fahrenheit. When the planes hit the building and burst into flames (Jet Fuel), the temperature would only be around 1500 degrees fahrenheit, not anywhere close enough to begin the melting process.
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It didn't have to melt the steel, just weaken it. As a kind of rough example, pottery is made from clay that's been hardened, so think of clay as a weakened form of pottery. Think of the pottery as steel, and that the jet fuel fed fire (effectively Napalm) weakened it, bring it closer to the consistency of clay. It doesn't need to melt to lost structural integrity.
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Eyewitness accounts said as they were running down the stairs they were hearing bombs going off at an even timeframe, as if it were systematically. The NYFD also agreed with those reports.
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Which could be explained by exploding electrical conduits in the walls, as the Napalm style fire began leaking down through the structure.
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The first plane made impact at level 93-99 of WTC1 and the second plane made impact at level 75-83 on WTC2. In other words, WTC1 impact was “so great” that it total shattered floors from 92 all the way to the ground and 70 feet below?!? The same with WTC2 from 74th floor to ground, and then 70 feet below?!? If that doesn’t make your head scratch then maybe this will, all that destruction in 1 hour and 42 minutes!
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Ever watched the Demolition Ranch videos on Youtube? He randomly shoots objects to see what it will take to break through them, or to see how many it would take to stop a bullet. He shot a solid ball of glass once, and it was interesting to see how the impact on one side literally reverberated through the glass and blew out the other side, even though the bullet didn't pass through.
In another video, he shot a pile of screen protectors, and the bullet passed through several and then cracked some more afterwards. What was interesting, is that the shockwave passed through some screen protectors without cracking them, then cracked more behind them.
Kinetic force is interesting to examine, and that force has to go somewhere.
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09-18-2021, 09:03 AM
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Re: Debunking a 9-11 myth
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Last I checked, steel was a metal.
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This is an article from the internet.
Unlike steel, a metal is a chemical element made up of multiple substances, not different from the ones you likely learned about in high school science classes. As you know, metals occur naturally in the Earth’s crust, so they don’t have to be produced by humans.
Steel, on the other hand, is an alloy made from iron metal—meaning without metal we wouldn’t have steel. This also means that steel is not technically a metal, but rather a variation of a metal instead.
Although metal is naturally occurring and can be found in the Earth’s crust, steel is much stronger. For this reason, metal is best when used in jewelry making, decorative projects or surgical implants, due to its malleable nature. Steel is strong and is virtually indestructible, which makes it a great option for structures like skyscrapers, commercial buildings, homes, ships or guns.
Thats why I said steel isn’t a metal. I wasn’t trying to nitpick a word, I just wanted to make it clear, the towers were not erected with metal, yet steel. Steel by far is a more durable than metal.
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It didn't have to melt the steel, just weaken it. As a kind of rough example, pottery is made from clay that's been hardened, so think of clay as a weakened form of pottery. Think of the pottery as steel, and that the jet fuel fed fire (effectively Napalm) weakened it, bring it closer to the consistency of clay. It doesn't need to melt to lost structural integrity.
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I could see weakening it, and with that said, maybe the couple floors beneath. I don’t believe it would completely demolish the entire building within 2 hours of impact. Also, there are videos with molten steel pouring onto the ground from the area of impact. Jet fuel will not burn that hot to melt the steel structure.
There was a interview I seen, and the NYFD wrote their reports stating seeing all this molted steel, and they of course were curious because how could steel melt at a low temp for jet fuel? Well long story short they were told, to keep quiet and everything they saw was classified information.
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Originally Posted by Jito463
Ever watched the Demolition Ranch videos on Youtube? He randomly shoots objects to see what it will take to break through them, or to see how many it would take to stop a bullet. He shot a solid ball of glass once, and it was interesting to see how the impact on one side literally reverberated through the glass and blew out the other side, even though the bullet didn't pass through.
In another video, he shot a pile of screen protectors, and the bullet passed through several and then cracked some more afterwards. What was interesting, is that the shockwave passed through some screen protectors without cracking them, then cracked more behind them.
Kinetic force is interesting to examine, and that force has to go somewhere.
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Ill look the videos up. Sounds interesting.
I didn’t realize the passports being found on the ground like Esaias posted. I always wondered how they “knew” who did it with in an hour or two.
For what its worth, I believe the passengers were gased, and the plane was a drone that was controlled by government officials. Thats just my opinion.
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