Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

You know those individuals who have a problem with others having an opinion should simply get off the forum, start their own forum, and then let those who join their forum know from the very beginning that they cannot disagree!

It would be very simple to maintain and control.

The one with the "truth," you know, the one who started the forum, could do all of the posting and all those who responded would simply post like this.....

"Amen, Brother!"

They could even put that "Amen, Brother" statement in their memory and just paste it each time.

Boy, that would be a simple forum to control and maintain. And I'm sure that it would have an overwhelming large membership! NOT!!!

I love to see folks disagree with me! It's fun to see them wrong!

Don't delete me from the AFF! I might just learn something!

Been Thinkin

[Sam]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

You know those individuals who have a problem with others having an opinion should simply get off the forum, start their own forum, and then let those who join their forum know from the very beginning that they cannot disagree!

It would be very simple to maintain and control.

The one with the "truth," you know, the one who started the forum, could do all of the posting and all those who responded would simply post like this.....

"Amen, Brother!"

They could even put that "Amen, Brother" statement in their memory and just paste it each time.

Boy, that would be a simple forum to control and maintain. And I'm sure that it would have an overwhelming large membership! NOT!!!

I love to see folks disagree with me! It's fun to see them wrong!

Don't delete me from the AFF! I might just learn something!

Been Thinkin

Don't the Cons already have a preachers' forum that does that?

[Orthodoxy]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

1: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

No, I do not believe that those exact words need to be spoken over the baptized person. Baptizing in the name of Jesus and baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit mean the same thing.

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

No. I believe that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is often or usually accompanied by tongues, but not always. A changed life is some good evidence, too.

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

No...see previous answers.

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

No, these are man-made rules that can't be supported by Scripture (except probably short hair on men). If someone lives by these standards, that's great. But you can't condemn others for not following those standards.

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?

Do I even have to answer this one?

So, does this mean I'm a liberal?

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Orthodoxy

No, I do not believe that those exact words need to be spoken over the baptized person. Baptizing in the name of Jesus and baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit mean the same thing.



No. I believe that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is often or usually accompanied by tongues, but not always. A changed life is some good evidence, too.



No...see previous answers.



No, these are man-made rules that can't be supported by Scripture (except probably short hair on men). If someone lives by these standards, that's great. But you can't force others to do the same.



Do I even have to answer this one?

So, does this mean I'm a liberal?

Nah! Just brave!

Been Thinkin

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Orthodoxy

No, I do not believe that those exact words need to be spoken over the baptized person. Baptizing in the name of Jesus and baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit mean the same thing.



No. I believe that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is often or usually accompanied by tongues, but not always. A changed life is some good evidence, too.



No...see previous answers.



No, these are man-made rules that can't be supported by Scripture (except probably short hair on men). If someone lives by these standards, that's great. But you can't force others to do the same.



Do I even have to answer this one?

So, does this mean I'm a liberal?

Well, in the opinions of some you would be a liberal, in the opinions of some you would be an apostate, and in the opinions of some you just represent some of the beliefs of some Apostolics

[Monarchianism]

: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

Yes, because only Jesus died for me.
If you want to say "In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost," that's fine.
As long as you know that "the name" is Jesus, then you are on your way to knowing him.

2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

It's not the only evidence.

3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

Yes.

4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

Yes for the men, because I consider shorts and sleeve-less tops to be worldly.
Yes for the women, because ( in my belief ) cut hair in the sight of God is as though she shaved it.
And wearing make-up can entice men to look at you, which most women wear it because of this.
Look at the reason Jezebel put it on for Jehu. Wearing make-up to me is worldly too. Same goes for sleeve-less shirts.
The rest I left out on men and women are explained in the book.

( I generally would exclude make-up all together, but I know a woman that wears it because of the red-ness of her face. --
You cannot tell that she has any on. I know she's not doing it for someone to look at her. --
If there's nothing wrong with your face, then I would get the impression that you want someone to look at you. )


5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?

Let me re-word it:
If they convert to Oneness and Obey Acts 2:38.
( Meaning One numerically. )

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Monarchianism

: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

Yes, because only Jesus died for me.
If you want to say "In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost," that's fine.
As long as you know that "the name" is Jesus, then you are on your way to knowing him.

2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

It's not the only evidence.

3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

Yes.

4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

Yes.

5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?

If they convert to Oneness, I do.

How does one "convert" to Oneness? To what articulated Oneness version of theology should they recite?

[Monarchianism]

Originally Posted by Socialite

How does one "convert" to Oneness? To what articulated Oneness version of theology should they recite?

I meant switching over. They can recite though.
There were men that made confessions in the book.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Monarchianism

: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

Yes, because only Jesus died for me.
If you want to say "In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost," that's fine.
As long as you know that "the name" is Jesus, then you are on your way to knowing him.

2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

It's not the only evidence.

3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

Yes.

4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

Yes for the men, because I consider shorts and sleeve-less tops to be worldly.
Yes for the women, because ( in my belief ) cut hair in the sight of God is as though she shaved it.
And wearing make-up can entice men to look at you, which most women wear it because of this.
Look at the reason Jezebel put it on for Jehu. Wearing make-up to me is worldly too. Same goes for sleeve-less shirts.
The rest I left out on men and women are explained in the book.

( I generally would exclude make-up all together, but I know a woman that wears it because of the red-ness of her face. --
You cannot tell that she has any on. I know she's not doing it for someone to look at her. --
If there's nothing wrong with your face, then I would get the impression that you want someone to look at you. )


5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?

Let me re-word it:
If they convert to Oneness and Obey Acts 2:38.
( Meaning One numerically. )

You're wasting your time. Opie Deuce had no intention of actually engaging anyone who responded to his post and thread. "Hit and Run." It's so characteristic of those who profess to "walk the old paths" - yet they have spent so much time recently editing Manuals and Articles of Faith to disguise just what those "old paths" really were.

They're delusional. Myopic. They have no real love for the "old paths." They just want their ears tickled with whatever is new and trendy in the Good Ol' Boy Network.

[Monarchianism]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You're wasting your time. Opie Deuce had no intention of actually engaging anyone who responded to his post and thread. "Hit and Run." It's so characteristic of those who profess to "walk the old paths" - yet they have spent so much time recently editing Manuals and Articles of Faith to disguise just what those "old paths" really were.

They're delusional. Myopic. They have no real love for the "old paths." They just want their ears tickled with whatever is new and trendy in the Good Ol' Boy Network.

I change my mind on if baptism is valid in two ways.
It says to baptize in "the name." That's what we should do.
We should baptize in the name, not titles.

James 1:8 - "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."

I wouldn't want to be one that baptizes in titles at one Church, then baptize in Jesus at another. If you baptize in titles, you're not baptizing in the name.

Comment to the old paths: I hope those old paths were modest in dress, and didn't pattern their lives after Jezebel.