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Old 05-20-2007, 07:40 PM
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The bottom line is Saddam Hussein was not at that time a major threat to the USA! There was no compelling reason to disregard the UN on the matter of waiting until there was indisputeable evidence of WMDs.
In a post 9/11 world, where Saddam had previously used WMD, had tried to assasinate a United States president (the elder Bush) and had stated more than once that he wanted to see the USA distroyed....


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had defied 12 UN resolutions that each threatend retaliation, and in the end thwarted the last round of UN inspectors, Saddam was a major threat to the United States. There WAS compelling reason to remove him. the UN security councel did in fact vote to give the US the right to go in. again, when you say the UN, you are speaking about FRANCE, a pack of cowards bent of doing all they can do to weaken the United States because they want to be a world super power and saw the chance in thwarting the USA.

when you speak of the UN not agreeing, you are speaking of a real menis nation in France. You are not speaking of ALL of the UN.
Italy
Spain
Poland
among some 30 nations did in fact, agree with us and were in some part involved in the Iraq invasion.

what was unwise, was not fighting from day one to control every inch of Iraq.
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:24 PM
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Ferd (and myself) are correct. The United Nations did pass 12 resolutions all ignored by Sadaam.

The United Nations would NEVER have actually done anything about Sadaam except give in to pressure to do away with the embargo against Iraq.

The United States just enforced the United Nations own resolutions that they were too weak to enforce.

The United Nations is a joke.
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:27 PM
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Oh, and let me add I don't give a rats behind what other countries think of the United States foreign policy.

Our primary goal must be to protect the security and interests of the United States and freedom.

France, Canada, and any host of pacifist nations can sit and let their countries face imminent dangers but that doesn't mean the United States has to do the same.

I have a Cowboy mentality and I am proud of it. The only thing idiots like radical Muslims in the middle east understand is force.

My only regret is that the USA was lulled into reducing the size of our military after the Cold War ended to the point where we are in a bind now that we need to take care of Iran's nuclear ambitions as well.

If a radical Muslim Nation gets a nuke we are all in a dire situation.
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:29 PM
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Oh, and let me add I don't give a rats behind what other countries think of the United States foreign policy.

Our primary goal must be to protect the security and interests of the United States and freedom.

France, Canada, and any host of pacifist nations can sit and let their countries face imminent dangers but that doesn't mean the United States has to do the same.

I have a Cowboy mentality and I am proud of it. The only thing idiots like radical Muslims in the middle east understand is force.
Amen! We have people amongst us who are so worried and want our people's perceptions and opinions to dictate foreign policy. I am AMERICAN first....and the protection of our security, interests and freedoms are firstmost.
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:32 PM
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Americans understand something that others are simply not able to grasp. when it is time to draw your six shooter, shut up and draw.


yea, we really are wild west cowboys.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:29 PM
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It's the attitude of Americans towards other peoples that has contributed to much of the hostility being shown towards the US today. Through the years the US has been very involved in providing arms and technology to dictators who ended up turning on them. IMO it's the foreign policy of the past that has placed the US in the position it is in now, not the cutback in defense spending. Of course I am an American who has lived outside of the US for most of my life and travelled to 25 nations, so I suppose I do have a different perspective than some of you. I have had many opportunities to listen to what foreigners have to say about American attitudes and policy. I have come to accept that not all American ideas are correct or good.
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:10 PM
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Sounds to me like a successful politician!
Truly, you must be reading and believing Hilliary's press releases and Bill's own autobiography. He certainly was a successful 'politician', he knows how to stick his finger in the air and chase the wind.
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:16 PM
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It's the attitude of Americans towards other peoples that has contributed to much of the hostility being shown towards the US today. Through the years the US has been very involved in providing arms and technology to dictators who ended up turning on them. IMO it's the foreign policy of the past that has placed the US in the position it is in now, not the cutback in defense spending. Of course I am an American who has lived outside of the US for most of my life and travelled to 25 nations, so I suppose I do have a different perspective than some of you. I have had many opportunities to listen to what foreigners have to say about American attitudes and policy. I have come to accept that not all American ideas are correct or good.
Why is it that "other people" suck up every resource that the US sends their way and then bites the hand that feeds it? The US has plenty of issues and its share of evil politicians, but let there be a catastrophe in where in the world and WHO is the first on the sense? So, why do we get dished for the evil we do, but absolutely no praise for the great things that the US has done? It really is discouraging!
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:18 PM
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Truth is Clinton did nothing that other presidents haven't done when it comes to immorality. He just got caught and exposed in the most public way. Far as I'm concerned it should never have been made public ... but .... in the times we're living in nothing is kept quiet anymore. Nothing is considered sacred. Nothing is held back --- not even for the sake of decency or out of respect for the office a person holds.

The exposure brought shame on Clinton himself, on his wife and family, on the highest office in the land and on the United States of America and had huge repercussion. It did nobody or nothing any good whatsoever. In fact, just the opposite is true.

JMO.
I could not agree with you more, I was extremely embarrassed by the public airing.
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:22 PM
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Good points CC, but the fact is ..... Nixon lied too. And who knows but what there was sexual impropriety along the way as well.
It wasn't the sexual immortally, it was the lies!!!!! What a joke! Fornication in the oval office is OK, just don't lie about it!!
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