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Old 01-01-2015, 11:37 AM
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Re: born of water

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Yes. You mentioned Titus 3:5 and we (Sean and I) have debated this passage on other threads. You, Sean, are adamant that this passage is speaking of water baptism because the word "washing" is there. I, however, do not believe this verse has anything to do with water baptism. It is by His Mercy that the Spirit washes us and regenerates us, not by works we have done. If one understands Titus 3:5 without wrongfully inserting "water baptism" into it, you can say with confidence that yes, "the Spirit remits sins!!!" QUOTE OBRIENCP




Please show me a passage that says the Holy Ghost remits sins.




(and dont use this verse!!!...38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost for the remission of sins.)...LOL
I personally do not say that the Spirit baptism remits sins. The word remit simply means to forgive as in forgive a debt owed. I believe that part happens normatively at baptism. God forgives and us reckons us righteous based on the merits of Christ. Then at Spirit baptism he literally cleanses us from the effects of sin in our inner man, our conscience. Because he reckoned us righteous when we were baptized by faith, he can then restore unto us that which Adam forfeited thus making us (as opposed to reckoning) righteous. He breathes into us that which was breathed into Adam and was later lost due to sin.
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Old 01-01-2015, 01:15 PM
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Re: born of water

i sure thought so, at least in the context...
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