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Old 09-08-2008, 11:45 AM
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I'm sadly addicted to tracking the electoral college map on www.realclearpolitics.com. I think we are in for a close one. My only consolation is that while Obama is .4 ppts ahead in Colorado, he really should be much further ahead since Colorado was inundated with Obama coverage due the the DNC being in Denver.

Mccain has to get Virginia & Ohio & he needs either Colorado or New Mexico & Nevada to win. Pennsylvania & Michigan just moved back into the toss-up category, but both of those states are a long shot to win.
You know, my husband was saying that the saddest thing, in his opinion, is that this country is divided down the middle.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:51 AM
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I'm sadly addicted to tracking the electoral college map on www.realclearpolitics.com. I think we are in for a close one. My only consolation is that while Obama is .4 ppts ahead in Colorado, he really should be much further ahead since Colorado was inundated with Obama coverage due the the DNC being in Denver.

Mccain has to get Virginia & Ohio & he needs either Colorado or New Mexico & Nevada to win. Pennsylvania & Michigan just moved back into the toss-up category, but both of those states are a long shot to win.
Why do we even go vote - does it really change the electoral votes?
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:52 AM
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Why do we even go vote - does it really change the electoral votes?
if you dont vote, Obama wins Tenn.... If I dont vote Obama wins Texas....


we better vote.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:56 AM
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if you dont vote, Obama wins Tenn.... If I dont vote Obama wins Texas....


we better vote.
Oh, I plan on it, but I believe people really have to wonder if it makes a difference and they just DON'T VOTE because of all the speculations beforehand!
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:59 AM
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Oh, I plan on it, but I believe people really have to wonder if it makes a difference and they just DON'T VOTE because of all the speculations beforehand!
hopefully those that dont vote are democrats......



The electoral college is a great protection. It prevents the tyrany of the majority and requires national candidates to pay attention to the entire country.
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:01 PM
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McCain has stolen the "change" message from Obama-Biden. Obama has been around for over a year, he no longer is the fresh face in the race.

He loses on the energy independence issue, because he won't include in his plan for the short term drilling for domestic oil to bridge the gap between our dependence on oil to fuel our economy and alternative sources of energy.

He loses on taxes because he is proposing increased taxes versus making the Bush tax cuts permanent.

He loses on the experience issue because he has none.

He loses on abortion because he won't give a clear answer on when does life begin.

He loses on the War on Terror because he has finally admitted that the surge is working even after he has denied its success for a long time and even then says he would still have opposed the surge even with the knowledge that it would lead to success.

He loses having Jermiah Wright, William Ayers, Father Pfleger, Michelle's "first time to be proud of America" comments, his "bitter Americans clinging to their religion and guns" comment in front of a San Francisco crowd all on his record along with many other alarming statements and associations.

What can Obama do to turn the tide against him?

The only thing, in my opinion, he could do to reignite his campaign is to drop Biden from the ticket and picking up Hillary.

Don't be surprised in a desperate move if Obama calls on Hillary to save his candidacy.
The other unknown is if Palin blows it badly in a debate/interview or makes a serious gaff on the campaign trail, but to be sure things are looking up.

I thought about maybe Biden being dropped as well, those democrats investors both with money and emotional loyalty are so invested when we get into October and things are still in McCain's favor look for a desperate move.
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obama doesnt want hilary near him, mccain palin will win, obama will end up the hyped loser he is, dt
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:06 PM
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obama doesnt want hilary near him, mccain palin will win, obama will end up the hyped loser he is, dt
You don't know how badly the dem's want the office back, if Lyndon Johnson could do it with Kennedy, I am sure that something could be worked out.
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Why do we even go vote - does it really change the electoral votes?
They need to divide the eletoral college by voting districts, instead of one candidate getting all of California's 52, he should only get those districts that he wins.
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They need to divide the eletoral college by voting districts, instead of one candidate getting all of California's 52, he should only get those districts that he wins.
I do think there needs to be some changes made to it.
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