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Old 10-20-2008, 10:17 AM
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Re: Why it is so hard to be a leader

yes, that is so good.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:28 AM
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Thought this would be a thread that leaders could express their feelings and maybe what has helped us carry on from day to day...
Thoughts????
Sis Alvear,

It is not difficult to be a leader, but is is difficult being a good one.
1. You must understand that the church is God's church and not yours
2. You must delegate even when you can do it better than most you would ask to help
3. You must keep your personal agenda out of it
4. You must be able to mentor leaders and work yourself out of a job.
5. You must not put your own family in all leadership postions to keep people around to defend your turf - because it isn't your turf and if no one else has a shot at being in leadership because of the family circle then you will lose the good leaders you may have gained
6. You must not allow people to put you on a pedestal [ you must admit your shortcomings and not pretend you are infallible]
7. You must put your relationship to God first before your works.
8. You must put your family before your works because if you don't have your family in line then you aren't a capable leader [Biblical]
9. You must delegate - I said that once but you have to learn to say no and not do everything yourself. if you kill yourself doing "things" God will still have a church, and there will be many more leaders born that you did not allow to be leaders while you were doing it all.


Just some things I have learned, observed, and been a part of for many years.


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Old 10-20-2008, 11:35 AM
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Re: Why it is so hard to be a leader

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For me, it's simple: nobody wants to follow!


Reminds me of the Maxwell maxim: "If you think you're leading but nobody is following then you're just taking a walk."
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Sis Alvear,

It is not difficult to be a leader, but is is difficult being a good one.
1. You must understand that the church is God's church and not yours
2. You must delegate even when you can do it better than most you would ask to help
3. You must keep your personal agenda out of it
4. You must be able to mentor leaders and work yourself out of a job.
5. You must not put your own family in all leadership postions to keep people around to defend your turf - because it isn't your turf and if no one else has a shot at being in leadership because of the family circle then you will lose the good leaders you may have gained
6. You must not allow people to put you on a pedestal [ you must admit your shortcomings and not pretend you are infallible]
7. You must put your relationship to God first before your works.
8. You must put your family before your works because if you don't have your family in line then you aren't a capable leader [Biblical]
9. You must delegate - I said that once but you have to learn to say no and not do everything yourself. if you kill yourself doing "things" God will still have a church, and there will be many more leaders born that you did not allow to be leaders while you were doing it all.


Just some things I have learned, observed, and been a part of for many years.


Blessings, Rhoni
#6 do I have to lie? What about if it is a small pedestal?

J/K

Good stuff Rhoni, I can't disagree with it.
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#6 do I have to lie? What about if it is a small pedestal?

J/K

Good stuff Rhoni, I can't disagree with it.
Thank you Bro. Ron.

I wish I could claim it all but most of this I got from the John Maxwell leadership series. These were not new Ideas as that is the way I understood them from my Indigeous Church Class for Missions at JCM. Some I learned from hard knocks in ministry that led me to where I am today

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Old 10-20-2008, 12:41 PM
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Re: Why it is so hard to be a leader

very good rhoni...and so true...
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:47 PM
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Re: Why it is so hard to be a leader

a real leader is respected by the people. ayour people know if you are a leader. many of our kids work in the work but our proplr will tell you we were harder on them probably than others...I donīt know if that was good but at least no one can truthfully say we made a difference.

Disciplline is common in Brazilian churches so our kids too have sit on the benches for things they did...
Every culture is different so we have to see things in the light of the culture where we live. That is why many times Americans fail they want to do things the American way...It does not work here...
I have read that more missionaries return from Brazil than any other country to never return.
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a real leader is respected by the people. ayour people know if you are a leader. many of our kids work in the work but our proplr will tell you we were harder on them probably than others...I donīt know if that was good but at least no one can truthfully say we made a difference.

Disciplline is common in Brazilian churches so our kids too have sit on the benches for things they did...
Every culture is different so we have to see things in the light of the culture where we live. That is why many times Americans fail they want to do things the American way...It does not work here...
I have read that more missionaries return from Brazil than any other country to never return.
Sis. Alvear,

that is why it is so important to train the nationals and that they not be dependent upon you - because when you leave they need to carry on with the work. Who best to know the people and their culture than they themselves.

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Re: Why it is so hard to be a leader

right now I am sitting in the waiting room of a clinic...they are my friends so I am using there internet..
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so true rhoni...these people need their own people...foreigners stick out most time like a sore thumb...
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