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Old 10-29-2009, 05:32 PM
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Re: Would God be mad....

Oh yeah, my agenda! Here it is:

1. Make ya think!

That's pretty much it, really. I know from personal experience that a lot of Christians just accept what they're told to believe, without really thinking through all the ramifications.
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Old 10-29-2009, 05:41 PM
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My opinion on all those wacky laws in the OT? I am very skeptical that God gave those laws to His people. And not just the "wacky" ones: all of them, including the Ten Commandments.

OK, some of those laws actually do make some sense, and are reasonable efforts to keep order, but someone made them up, thinking they were good laws to have on the books. Nobody really needed to hear "thou shalt not kill" from on high to think that would be a good rule! But to make enforcement easier, these rules were said to have been given by revelation from God.

And a lot of them would be right at home on those lists of crazy laws still on the books in our country today.

It is illegal to sell peanuts after sundown on Wednesday.

Elephants may not be used to plow cotton fields.

Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.

It is forbidden to fish while sitting on a giraffe’s neck.
I wonder: Think the more bizarre laws may have been the result of special interest groups lobbying for them?

Some are not just wacky. They're evil. Does anyone really think, even back in the OT times when "things were different", it was actually good and moral and just to require parents to have their kids killed for being disobedient? Would you have obeyed God, if you lived as a Jew back then?



I think it's a bit odd, but not a major issue for me. In my "What You Believe" series, in the "Gospel" chapter, I point out that the old way of getting forgiveness (animal sacrifice) doesn't work anymore. I think that's pretty weird. If it made God so happy when people killed and burned a lamb that He'd forgive their sins back then, why wouldn't it make Him that happy now?



Of course! Lots!

Well stated. As I've told you by PM, a lot of those OT rules are a bit troubling for me. I honestly don't understand many of them. Were they from God? I take the bible for what it says, but if I find out in heaven that someone got carried away with an ink pen, I won't be disappointed or surprised.

And I've wondered.....if God was eventually leading toward the redemption of mankind through the cross, why didn't He just do that from the beginning? I have lots of questions. I'm gonna keep God busy someday up there.
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Oh yeah, my agenda! Here it is:

1. Make ya think!

That's pretty much it, really. I know from personal experience that a lot of Christians just accept what they're told to believe, without really thinking through all the ramifications.

And I, for one, LOVE the fact that you make us all think. Faith never doubted and never questioned, is faith never truly owned.
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But is there a verse that says we can no longer stone someone to death if they're bad boy? Hmmm........
Yes. The rules about obeying the laws of the land.
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Yes. The rules about obeying the laws of the land.


Good point! Ok, I'll put my rocks down!
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:21 PM
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Let's get the constitution changed to allow it. It can't be immoral, it was a command given from God.
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Let's get the constitution changed to allow it. It can't be immoral, it was a command given from God.

Good point. Let's start a Christian email petition and seek 14 million signatures and ask people to send it to 50 friends and promise them a thousand dollars for Bill Gates Beta Testing if they sign.

I'll send the final results to Nancy Pelosi!
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:56 PM
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Good point. Let's start a Christian email petition and seek 14 million signatures and ask people to send it to 50 friends and promise them a thousand dollars for Bill Gates Beta Testing if they sign.

I'll send the final results to Nancy Pelosi!
Okay, lets first get a list of upc ministers to start emailing it to first. I'm sure if we begin with them and they mention it in church and send it to their church members it'll spread like wildifire. Think the break-off upc orginization will let us borrow the list they have?
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Offering sacrifice for sin when Christ has paid the debt for once and all - I think THAT would really frost Him!
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Offering sacrifice for sin when Christ has paid the debt for once and all - I think THAT would really frost Him!
W'll, what about offerings that aren't for sins? I think some of them were used in worship to God?
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