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08-11-2010, 09:14 PM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
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FRUIT???!!!
The following was posted today by a prominent, high-ranking UPCI pastor:
I'm sorry but COLOR ME BAPTIST ...
The fruit of the Spirit is not enough?
We need "apostolic fruit" for "apostolic revival"?
The gifts or charismata of the Spirit are too entertaining? Requiring less work for us?
Edward Anglin you were right. Holy Toledo!
Yes, officially a cult of Pelagianism has gripped many in Apostolica .... where one's performance is the apex.
We now are branding His fruit ... sad.
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Dan, I don't get it. What is his point?
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08-11-2010, 09:21 PM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
The gifts of the spirit are important for the edification of the body of Christ,but we should as believers be manifesting the fruit of the Spirit in our daily walk with The lord.
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08-12-2010, 12:14 AM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
I had a friend that told me once that one can't be a Christian with out speaking in tongues. I said "aren't we to be like Christ" and they said, "yes and Christ was for speaking in tongues." I said "huh?" Many people have came up with crazy sayings and stuff but when you actually look at them MANY of them have no biblical base just "apostolic fruit" or "apostolic cross." How about an "apostolic passover" or an "apostolic ten commandments" oh wait we have those already. My bad.
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08-12-2010, 12:16 AM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
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I had a friend that told me once that one can't be a Christian with out speaking in tongues. I said "aren't we to be like Christ" and they said, "yes and Christ was for speaking in tongues." I said "huh?" Many people have came up with crazy sayings and stuff but when you actually look at them MANY of them have no biblical base just "apostolic fruit" or "apostolic cross." How about an "apostolic passover" or an "apostolic ten commandments" oh wait we have those already. My bad.
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Well, there is already an apostolic birthday song...... <ugh!>
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08-12-2010, 12:20 AM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
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Well, there is already an apostolic birthday song...... <ugh!>
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I hate the "I am a Pentecostal" song. What a waste of 10 minutes. My favorite thing that I hear a lot is things like this "apostolic message." That really bugs me. The message is NOT Acts 2:38 our response to the Gospel might be Acts 2:38, but it isn't the message. I tend to shy away when people say that stuff.
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08-12-2010, 04:06 AM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
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I hate the "I am a Pentecostal" song. What a waste of 10 minutes. My favorite thing that I hear a lot is things like this "apostolic message." That really bugs me. The message is NOT Acts 2:38 our response to the Gospel might be Acts 2:38, but it isn't the message. I tend to shy away when people say that stuff.
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I never thought of it in those terms . I like it , a response to the Gospel. I agree whole heartily .
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08-12-2010, 07:21 AM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
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I had a friend that told me once that one can't be a Christian with out speaking in tongues. I said "aren't we to be like Christ" and they said, "yes and Christ was for speaking in tongues." I said "huh?" Many people have came up with crazy sayings and stuff but when you actually look at them MANY of them have no biblical base just "apostolic fruit" or "apostolic cross." How about an "apostolic passover" or an "apostolic ten commandments" oh wait we have those already. My bad.
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Some of the old timers preached that Jesus spoke in tongues when He said:
"Talitha cumi" Mark 5:41
"Abba" Mark 14:46
"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani" Matthew 27:46
I'm not sure but I think Joel Hemphill's dad was one that preached that.
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08-12-2010, 08:55 AM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
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Some of the old timers preached that Jesus spoke in tongues when He said:
"Talitha cumi" Mark 5:41
"Abba" Mark 14:46
"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani" Matthew 27:46
I'm not sure but I think Joel Hemphill's dad was one that preached that.
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OH Boy talk about unlearned.............
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08-12-2010, 12:24 AM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
DA, I think MB has the right idea about the author's point. It seems more like he's saying there's no emphasis on "fruit", apostolic, spiritual or otherwise, and rather a lot of talk and emphasis on the "gifts", since they're easier (presumably to put on display).
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08-12-2010, 12:49 AM
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Re: Fruit of The Spirit Not Enough - We Need Apost
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DA, I think MB has the right idea about the author's point. It seems more like he's saying there's no emphasis on "fruit", apostolic, spiritual or otherwise, and rather a lot of talk and emphasis on the "gifts", since they're easier (presumably to put on display).
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I get that... Still puzzling where he was going with "Apostolic fruit" and "revival fruit." A bit awkward.
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